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PostPosted: Fri, Jan 06, 2012 11:12pm 
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Which you think is better, heavier more versatile Soldano SLO vs Diezel Einstein 100w?


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PostPosted: Fri, Jan 06, 2012 11:36pm 
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Judging by your username, I'd say you like the SLO. I do to.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 07, 2012 1:21am 
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There is a video of these 2 head to head on YouTube. I kinda liked the Einstein in the shootout, but I've never played a SLO.

The Einstein is definitely more versatile feature wise.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 07, 2012 4:54pm 
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Boy, thats too killer amps for sure..Either one is a totally pro. amp and can do no wrong.Ive owned both-A namm Einey, and a fully modded slo...The Einey for sure has more channels,and more options and may do the metal thing a tad better...How ever,the slo has a cut thru-rip your head off lead tone/voice that sits really well in a band mix.Ive had many compliments when Im taking solos on the slo-for its tone from some FOH guys..It also does a great clean/ and country/rock tone-maybe a tad better than the Einey in that regard.....Also consider that when the SLO made its debut,there wasnt a whole lot out there that had that much gain going on.Almost every other amp out there now a days has ridiculous amounts of gain on tap...not so when the slo came out.....I think theyre both great amps and if you take the stage with either one of those, youll be more than good to go.


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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 07, 2012 7:46pm 
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ya i have a SLO just thinking of trading it for a Einstein. I play in a 80s metal style band and the SLO fuckn rips but i also to stoner rock/newer metal, sabbath/chains/carcass and the soldano just isnt balsy it enough, so if the einy could pretty much do both I might as well trade. Running it through either VHT fat bottom 4x12 or bogner slant 4x12


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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 07, 2012 9:56pm 
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Two different animals IMHO.

Einstein has the versatility. SLO has the signature 80's metal sound.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 07, 2012 10:48pm 
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soldanospwn wrote:
ya i have a SLO just thinking of trading it for a Einstein. I play in a 80s metal style band and the SLO fuckn rips but i also to stoner rock/newer metal, sabbath/chains/carcass and the soldano just isnt balsy it enough, so if the einy could pretty much do both I might as well trade. Running it through either VHT fat bottom 4x12 or bogner slant 4x12


You should look at a CAA 3+ preamp. Mine will do the stoner rock vibe and has a great 80's vibe too.

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i love the einstein but do they cut or do they get drownded out by like a 5150 or dual rec? because the tone is really great for metal and the cleans are perfect.

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This is the best example of the Einstein ripping assh@les into the competition in a 'metal' style.


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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 08, 2012 8:32am 
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If you want to play stoner ala Natas, Zoroaster or Ufomammut, then you should consider buying an Orange. If you want to play Alice in Chains, Carcass and Sabbath with just one amp then you need something more versatile. Einstein can do this.
But SLO is also a pretty good amp and am sure you’re gonna miss it. Colour Haze are playing with an SLO.


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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 08, 2012 8:29pm 
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2 different beasts for sure...mark knopler used the slo for years, Eddie used one too, so did clapton, and mike s. had a protoype made that SRV was gonna switch over to also, then- u got Demartini and carlos using slo's w/ ratt- me and "hard n heavy" saw that show and thier tone was some of the best tones weve heard....I used an Einey in a country rock band so theyll both cover a lot of ground...If you hav the funds- own both of em...I would also suggest that the soldano x-88r has 3 separate channels and gets very heavy too..lots of choices...best of luck..id be happy w/ either.


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Little B wrote:
2 different beasts for sure...mark knopler used the slo for years, Eddie used one too, so did clapton, and mike s. had a protoype made that SRV was gonna switch over to also, then- u got Demartini and carlos using slo's w/ ratt- me and "hard n heavy" saw that show and thier tone was some of the best tones weve heard....I used an Einey in a country rock band so theyll both cover a lot of ground...If you hav the funds- own both of em...I would also suggest that the soldano x-88r has 3 separate channels and gets very heavy too..lots of choices...best of luck..id be happy w/ either.

Judging from your avatar, you're not the kinda guy to settle on 'either', it would seem :lol: :LOL:

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PostPosted: Mon, Jan 09, 2012 6:20pm 
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So I did make the trade! Lovin the Einstein, specially thru my new bogner 4x12! Deffinetaly do miss the voicing and cut of the SLO. I do really need both, the Einstein is just more of what I need now. LOTS OF CHUNK and bottom end :). My 80s metal band is kinda peaved but w/e.


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PostPosted: Mon, Jan 09, 2012 7:10pm 
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now get a soldano hot rod for cheap and stack them up :D

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PostPosted: Mon, Jan 09, 2012 7:29pm 
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save up for the Avenger I'm thinkin. Hard to find up in Canada though...


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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 1:00am 
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Ventura wrote:
Little B wrote:
2 different beasts for sure...mark knopler used the slo for years, Eddie used one too, so did clapton, and mike s. had a protoype made that SRV was gonna switch over to also, then- u got Demartini and carlos using slo's w/ ratt- me and "hard n heavy" saw that show and thier tone was some of the best tones weve heard....I used an Einey in a country rock band so theyll both cover a lot of ground...If you hav the funds- own both of em...I would also suggest that the soldano x-88r has 3 separate channels and gets very heavy too..lots of choices...best of luck..id be happy w/ either.

Judging from your avatar, you're not the kinda guy to settle on 'either', it would seem :lol: :LOL:
LOL..I guess youre right on that one!...But i can tell I honestly love all of these amps and at any given time I could take any one and have a decent clean, crunch, and high gain choice to get me through the night at the local gig...I dont make big money at all, I just had to do some serious penny saving to get all these...but no regrets at all...Like the previous post said, if you can, have the einey AND a soldano--trust me- they sound really happening and cool together! :)


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Apples and oranges, as as an Einstein owner; the SLO is a breathtaking amp.
The Diezel (for me) was more than a one trick pony.
The clean on the Einstein is never really spoke of; with a good chorus it is almost as shiny as my JC 120's.
The Einstein can (will) sound like ass with the the wrong cab/driver combination.
The SLO always sounds good via any cab/config; but I always think of it as a one tone amp.(Killer)
Both are great amps, but I wanted the Einstein.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jan 17, 2012 2:29pm 
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The Einstein sounds MONSTROUS through my VHT fat bottom 4x12 and Bogner Uber 4x12 with v30s. HOLY SHIEEET does my rythm guitar player and his jcm 2000 halfstack hate me! :D


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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 29, 2012 7:52pm 
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Great thread. Im looking at both as a compliment amp to my Bogner 20th shiva. From what Ive read here it seems like the SLO would be a better fit.

So how do the 2 clean channels compare? I need a really nice clean channel that doesnt break up.

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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 29, 2012 8:00pm 
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RSRD wrote:
Great thread. Im looking at both as a compliment amp to my Bogner 20th shiva. From what Ive read here it seems like the SLO would be a better fit.

So how do the 2 clean channels compare? I need a really nice clean channel that doesnt break up.

If youre talking bout the ch 2 cleans of the SLO paired up w/ your Bogner, Ive done that many times..Works great..albeit, my SLO has all the mods, and I often use the cleans w/ the scoop mod on...dont know if that helps any....


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PostPosted: Mon, Jan 30, 2012 7:08pm 
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i should get the mods to my SLO just dont want to ship it...


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Thats the tough part about SLO's..to change it up a bit...I bought mine w/ all the mods but played a ton of slo's without the mods..I like all the mods, only wish the scoop mod would be for the high gain ch. also..I saw RATT a year ago and both Warren & Carlos were using SLos as thier main tone..I was with some other guitar players that night, and we all agreed thier tone was just rippin,tight,organic,full,and happening that night....went up to the stage afterwards and saw they both had VH-4s also, but wernt plugged into....Id be happy with either amp! LOL.


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So they are endorsed by diesel but play SLOs behind ? I prefer the SLO myself but any guitar player worth their salt can get a v4 to sound really good. I just don't understand when ppl do that.

Cool story though!

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Correct me if I'm wrong but Diezel doesn't endorse players.

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So the guys at ratt just think they look cooler ?? I'm confused. Need.... More..... Coffee....

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I use a 100 watt Einstein>2x12 with the ch 1 mode mod as my gigging rig. If your after a versatile beast with channel switching options for gigging I think the Einstein is your choice. I played a Hot Rod 50 with a GTO supercharger for a year or so and it was nice and I planned on upgrading to the SLO next till I came across the Diezel's :rock: Never had a SLO to play but they do sound titty. I'm sure you can dial in any tone with the SLO too, but the Einstein has better options for me. The 2 master volumes are awesome too :cheers:


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Congrats on the trade! :rock: Still happy with the Einy? Here's that head-to-head in case you haven't seen it.


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Yeah loving the Einy! fuckn rips! super chunky and ballzy, I like the darker voicing than the SLO. Running it thru 2 4x12 rules, just gonna suck moving it all to gigs lol. Got my eye on a soldano 50watt avenger here at long and mcquade. Just hope no one buys it :s


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Congrats on the trade! :rock: Still happy with the Einy? Here's that head-to-head in case you haven't seen it.




Great A/B. I thought the ein sounded more brittle and sharper on the attack- overall. The SLO sounded more liquid and hand a bit more grind with a slower attack.

Great that u played the same riffs. Boring for some maybe but definitely much better to compare tone with.

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Great demoing of two awesome amps!...Ive had both of these for quite a long while and the way I look at them is this: If ya need to take only one amp out to the gig tonight,either one will cover clean,dirty,and high gain very well...Of course the Einy has a 2nd master which is really cool,but its no biggie to put an xotic rc in the loop of the SLO for boosting(some folks like this better cause ya have some further tone control)--to each thier own.....Ive used the Einy for believe it or not, a ton of modern country/rock gigs, and just recently the SLO too..Both these amps dialed back a bit have great verge of clip tones....Also keep in mind the SLO demoed didnt have any mods. Mine has the mods and it greatly enhances tone and steps up the bar..The Einy probably has the "metal" edge,but keep in mind,the SLO has been out for darn near 30 years and Mike hasnt made an updated one yet..Thats saying a lot for a SLO to even remotely keep up w/ a beast like the Einy....Great thread guys!


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Great stuff indeed. Little B. I just sent you an email FYI regarding your rig.

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