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PostPosted: Mon, Sep 11, 2017 12:11pm 
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I discovered Diezel with the Einstein combo 50W some years ago ... maybe the best High Gain combo that i've never heard!

Are there some differences between Einstein (head) 100W and 50W other than power?
What do you think about these amps?

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No tonal or design deference. They may feel different, like most 50 vs 100 watt amps do.

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Girth/headroom otherwise the same.

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As Tristan said. The 50 watt output transformer appears a bit more "confortable".


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PostPosted: Wed, Sep 13, 2017 12:19pm 
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The 50 water is about perfect ..awesome amp so much tone


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PostPosted: Mon, Sep 18, 2017 2:08am 
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thanks for you answer! :rock: :rock:

I've just missed the sale of an einstein 50W head few days ago : perfect condition 800€ :cry:

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PostPosted: Mon, Sep 18, 2017 10:28am 
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loic wrote:
I discovered Diezel with the Einstein combo 50W some years ago ... maybe the best High Gain combo that i've never heard!

Are there some differences between Einstein (head) 100W and 50W other than power?
What do you think about these amps?


That's funny ! :D
It was exactly the same for me !!! It all started with the Einstein combo few years ago another band had... But when I finished saving to get a brand new one, they stopped production, so I went with D-Moll instead and was happy, but always missed this organic sound of Einstein. Later I got VH4, but could not never forget Einstein so traded my D-moll for an Einstein combo few months ago and back to honey moon.

Concerning difference between 50W and 100W, I have always heard/read that 100W is more open, more headroom, more everything... But I seriously have not been able to hear any difference.

When searching on RT, I found a post from Herr Peter Diezel who said that the Einstein Combo was coming with the same transformers than the 100W version to avoid over heating !!???
Can someone knowledgeable (or Peter himself ?) please tell me what is the impact on the sound to have a 50W power section with 100W transformers ???

Whatever the answer is, I have yet to find an Einstein that sounds bad to my ears... :rock:

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PostPosted: Mon, Sep 18, 2017 11:44am 
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so you still prefer einstein than VH4? ;)

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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 19, 2017 2:06am 
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loic wrote:
so you still prefer einstein than VH4? ;)


I have never said that !!! :lol: :LOL:
Different beasts for different situation I would say...

I love both, and will never let them go :rock:


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viewtopic.php?f=14&t=168242&p=1889878&hilit=diezel+einstein+combo+transformers#p1890618

"The combo has the 100 watt main transformer
to avoid getting too hot. Maybe this was the wrong
decision. To lower the bias helps maybe a bit."


Here is the link to the post where Peter talks about the transformers on the Einstein combo.

So my question is:
If the main difference between the 50W and 100W Einy is the main transformers, then how would the 50W combo compare soundwise to the 50W and 100W head if it is 50W but with the main transformers of the 100W version ?

Thanks in advance for any answer.

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Faxanadu wrote:
loic wrote:
so you still prefer einstein than VH4? ;)


I have never said that !!! :lol: :LOL:
Different beasts for different situation I would say...

I love both, and will never let them go :rock:


I want an Einstein :D :rock:

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