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PostPosted: Sun, Feb 16, 2014 9:24pm 
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Well papa I gather their is not going to be a new Diezel with EL-84/6V6 tubes.I love my Einy and in all my years have never been so content.Diezel service is second to none.With that said ,I've been waiting for 2 years for the rumored littel Diezel.Been in the Buiss. for 40+ years and understand things like market saturation vs profit.I have never owned a better built amp with unheard of service like you all provide.It saddened me to have to settel for somthing else.Reality is I'm an old man now and don't have the chance that often to pack a half stack min.LoL just had shoulder surgery and just wanted a smaller gain monster. Thx old rocker stuck in Alaska. :rock:


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It´s on my workbench. Should released this year :yes:


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Awesome.That's what I mean,what other manufacturer has the main man respond that quick.LoL still waiting for new piece of crap to arrive,but guess it's gonna get sold .I better start saving for a real quality gain monster.Once again...Papa you rock. :rock: :thumbsup: :lol: :LOL:


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Wow! Thats cool news!

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It´s on my workbench. Should released this year :yes:


This should be perfect for me. Looking forward to it.


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great new

i hope there will be lot of feature...a kind of d-moll on 20 watts...but is it possible?

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Please tell me which features the amp should have.

And please don´t forget the customers that are not
too much into heavy low end and distortion.

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Great news!

I would say:
- a head version
- 2 channels sharing the same eq but with independent gain and volume controls
- a reverb
- effects loop
- footswitchable channel switch and reverb
- a headphones out with the Einstein or Hagen compensated out filter
- in case it fits in, deep and presence controls
- lightweight
- something that one could rehearse and play a small gig with - maybe 15 or 30 W? :confused:

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I'd say :
- head and combo versions
- 2 channels, if possible with individual controls, at least independent gain and volume
- presence, deep controls maybe at the back
- master volume
- switchable reverb
- switchable serial effect loop with instrument/line level selector

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please make it a 25+ watts amp. I used amps with less and in a band situation they get lost.

I would be happy with one super dynamic clean to crunch channel, maybe a switchable boost (indiv gain and volume), presence, deep is fine to make it fit anywhere.
serial loop

not a recti lunchbox like amp, more like a badger with D-quality.

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2 Channels
one that does clean up to about the Texas on the Einny
second channel that has your +/- switch so you can basically start off where ch 1 ends in low
gain and add a gain stage to get that Mega Crunch/Herb2 .LFokker tone in the "+"
Second master if room for leads
loop .Reverb would be great on back ,if possible as per other requests
30 watts - 40 watts

This way you can have a clean and crunch on the second channel for the blues classic rock guy
While you also have the option of setting up ch 2 as a hotter rock channel although maybe not as mean and low punchy as the Herb ,VH4


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Same 2 channels, gain boost on ch2, 1 switchable loop, preamp out, 4x6V6 power tubes.
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Hi peter

What features? The most difficult question for an amp.
I think lot of people love the einstein and is versatility..
So on my mind i have got einstein in 30 watts with el34 and i think is possible...maybe is not right.
-You keep the 2 channels but the best way is to have the 3 modes of channel 1 footswitchable
- reverb very good idea
- fx loop footswitchable
- maybe midicontrol but not sure
- the weight...very important...so an amp between 11 and 15 kg maximum

Or other idea a schmidt with
-more gain on 2.5 channel
- presence deep
-master volume

In fact an mix between schmidt and einstein.....the schminstein..lol

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WoW .Well pappa recieved my new POS lunchbox ,made in china arrived.Dang wish I new the good stuff was coming.Haven't checked the sight for awhile..LoL.Like the rest have said.I would be Happy ..LoL with Eint gain,2 channels,Must have deep for that tight fat bottom.LoL who doesn't love a fat bottom.Power like was said 2 IL -34 would be awesome but maybe a bit much.I've learned from my new POS that el-84 will get it done.The one thing I really like is a switch that will do the pentode tri=ode thing.LoL I've already ordered NOS german 84.For me German Nos power is heaven.Global master would be sweat.Channel switching.I'm old LoL so don't need lots of channels,just a clean capable of crunch Marshall & a creamy Dieazel kill channel.Don't need a crap of wisels and bells ,just Diezel Balls.Oh and please have a parrallel loop.Serial sucks.All my pack gear is TC with kill dry so you don't loose that Trade mark Diezel cream. As always a die hard Diezel worshiper.Thx again Pappa. Yeah no RF antenna all metal enclosure. :rock: :thumbsup: :lol: :LOL:


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2 channel (clean to crunch & crunch to lead)
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djpatb wrote:
2 channel (clean to crunch & crunch to lead)
2x6V6
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I like this! But with your legendary FX loop :rock:

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tripstan wrote:
djpatb wrote:
2 channel (clean to crunch & crunch to lead)
2x6V6
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I like this! But with your legendary FX loop :rock:

Cool, may I name it?
I have 3 cats to choose from. :lol: :LOL:

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15-30W head
Parallel loop
No MIDI
Headphone/record output
External bias points (for US only)
Channel 1: Sparkly clean to vintage breakup
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Chan 1: clean to Einstein Texas
Chan 2: crunch to vh4 ch3 territory
Reverb
Serial fx loop (switchable would be awesome)
Channel and reverb select via stereo plug footswitch
Added midi control would be a nice luxury.
Also another channel like dmoll with just gain/vol would be awesome.
Combo and head versions.

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Don't hate me for digging up an old thread... Any updates on a small Diezel combo amp?

I'd love a combo 1x12 or 2x12 with V30s, cleans and a VH4 ch 3 distortion!

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Mr Peter diezel mind asking if you yourself is also a metal listener ? having designing so many well suited metal amp ?


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Head version :
- Clean channel with equalization, gain and reverb
- Lead channel with equlaization, gain and reverb
- effects loop switchable
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Combo version => with Creamback G12H-75 :rock:

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Faxanadu wrote:
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Same 2 channels, gain boost on ch2, 1 switchable loop, preamp out, 4x6V6 power tubes.
Is delivered with a free Diezel T-Shirt !


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: good idea

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I am hoping Santa(papa) is listening I would love there to be the option to have a 50 watt el34 or a separate amp called the Max50 which is exact same features as 22 6v6 but holds bigger tubes.
It would be nice to see a 50 W in the Deizel family again VH ,Hagen ,Herb Dmoll all are 100 a smaller more compact 50 w dual verb and Zerrer type direct out would be incredible


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2x KT77's (stock diezel tube of choice)
2 channels, both with a toggle switch for 4 total voicings.
switchable serial loop
NO midi, to save cost, space, and weight.
head only version.

But.....

Start building a Diezel 1x12 cab again, and make the new head and cab the same width. It would be a mini half stack! Or buy two 1x12 cabs and have a mini full stack, even better!

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RJF wrote:
2x KT77's (stock diezel tube of choice)
2 channels, both with a toggle switch for 4 total voicings.
switchable serial loop
NO midi, to save cost, space, and weight.
head only version.

But.....

Start building a Diezel 1x12 cab again, and make the new head and cab the same width. It would be a mini half stack! Or buy two 1x12 cabs and have a mini full stack, even better!



This would work to ,I would love just to see a simple 50 watter in the lineup all black simple tolex even with grill cloth too keep cost down ,as you said no midi etc


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Midi is not expensive. Just more wiring.

I have a big issue with 20 watt amps.
Not enough power if you have a loud drummer.
Too loud for home und studio environment.

I have an other idea but want keep it secret.

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Peter Diezel wrote:
Midi is not expensive. Just more wiring.

I have a big issue with 20 watt amps.
Not enough power if you have a loud drummer.
Too loud for home und studio environment.

I have an other idea but want keep it secret.

Cheers,
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I agree with your point of view and like where this is going ,where is that Santa smilie??

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Peter Diezel wrote:
I have an other idea but want keep it secret.

Cheers,
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Ohhhh! black ops amp building... :yes:

I agree, 20w is too small. Plus, correct me if I'm wrong but part of the Diezel sound is the power amp being powerful, clean, and well defined. Seems it would be easy to overdrive the power section with the low wattage type tubes. Plus I can't lie, Peter was right, the KT77 is awesome. :thumbsup:

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Oh man I can't wait anymore!!!

In the moment I'm looking for a good sounding little solution. Let's say you have to do a rehearsal in a new band and you don't want to pull the Diezel halfstack, like in my case.

So this little amp would be perfect and like mentioned before a Diezel 1x12. Would buy it immediately!!!
There is nothing on the market for my taste beside Mesa. But it's too expensive in Germany. A Mark V:25 is something over 1700 euros. Instead I can buy a brand new DMoll or the cheaper Lil'Fokker.

A build in power soak would be nice.
Imagine that...a little Diezel amp and you can use it everywhere!!! Fantastic!


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Maybe a vertical 2x12 cab with casters? I always thought a Mesa Mark short head on top one of those old metal grille vertical 212 cabs were cool. Maybe the new head could share headshells with the Smaller sized Dmoll? Then the vertical 212 cab the same width... just dreaming out loud. :D

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Any Luck we will see a smaller head 50 watt at Namm in a few weeks ??


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For a small wattage head:
-Single set of eq with two seperate gains so you can have a clean.
-A switch with a variable slope resistor that you can activate to scoop the amp up more for the clean sound and a pumped mid for soloing.
-head and cab version
-4x el84 or 6v6
- not overly gainy on the gains themselves but the option of boosting like the herbet -/+ switch
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loic wrote:
Head version :
- Clean channel with equalization, gain and reverb
- Lead channel with equlaization, gain and reverb
- effects loop switchable
- 2 master volumes
- Deep and presence control
- 30W

Combo version => with Creamback G12H-75 :rock:


this but 50 to 60 W :yes: :yes:

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hi

is there some news about the small amp?
hope this amp go out for the musikmesse.

papa diezel, I'm sure you prepare an another great amp!

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WOW!!! Peter it will be really great! (I have some issues with my back and can't carry my Herbert anymore)

If you can integrate mid-cut/boost and deep-presence in a lunchbox head it will be really great

Two channels minimum , maybe channel 2 and channel 3 with the same settings but independent gain controls and more compressed sound on 3rd channel like Herbert! It's incredibly useful for the solos, no need to add compression!

in any case it's really exiting news! :rock:

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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 16, 2015 11:21am 
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And yes, 20W is too small to cover a loud drummer.
25W is minimum i think!

If you can think about good compensated output for in-ears monitoring on stage - will be perfect!

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Voron wrote:
WOW!!! Peter it will be really great! (I have some issues with my back and can't carry my Herbert anymore)

If you can integrate mid-cut/boost and deep-presence in a lunchbox head it will be really great

Two channels minimum , maybe channel 2 and channel 3 with the same settings but independent gain controls and more compressed sound on 3rd channel like Herbert! It's incredibly useful for the solos, no need to add compression!

in any case it's really exiting news! :rock:



Have you checked Dmoll .probably half the weight of Herb but it has 3 ch like you mentioned and the Mid cut

I would think if the lil amp Max is coming out this year it will be at the Messe next month


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I think all the Diezel big amps have enough features and if someone wants that we can pay for it. For a small amp, I wouldn't have too many features at all. I'd focus on 1 thing and make it well to keep the Diezel sound, so maybe have a few variety of small amps

amp 1 - single channel, effects loop focused on any of the high gain channels of the other amps. It will of course be different because of the smaller wattage, different parts, but still has that Diezel gain. The gain could be rolled off for cleaner sounds though. So there would be variety of sounds.

amp 2 - single channel clean up to dirty, effects loop

I know it may not be something you want to add to a smaller amp, but I've always thought there would be a nice market for an amp to include some kind of DI or reamp feature that could record up to X minutes of playing. So it could be used several ways, like played back as we make adjustments, a looper and of course played back for recording. So there would be 3 jacks on the front, 1 for the dry guitar, 1 out to go back to the pedal board (or whatever) and then one Main Input to plug back in that hits the preamp.

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Have you checked Dmoll .probably half the weight of Herb but it has 3 ch like you mentioned and the Mid cut
I would think if the lil amp Max is coming out this year it will be at the Messe next month

Still to heavy for my back :(
Really need something light, about 10kg...

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Any Updates on this one for the Messe Papa???


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I have a 45 to 50 watt amp finished.
D-Moll chassis.
2.5 channels.
2 master.
Reverb for each channel.
Midi and FS7 footswitch.
Serial and parallel loop switchable.
A bit less gain on the distortion channels
but that allows a thick tone.

Need a new logo and head shell design to
get more of the non metal customers.
Of course the amp can do metal :lol: :LOL:

For home use and recording I have a much smaller
project with DAW direct out from a power amp.
Also useable as 2 channel preamp.

25 watts are too small for a loud drummer and way
to loud for home use and recording needs.


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