If You Can't Buy One, Build One - "CCV" style
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scottosan
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There are plenty of resources if you want to build one. Establish a reputation that you aren't the next coming of Billy Blades and once people get to know you they will likely share information with you. You could check out the SLOClone forumshopkinWFG":2d5n410e said:
duesentrieb
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Very cool! Congrats!
technomancer
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Someday somewhere there will be proper accurate schematics of this and the Old Bitch 
scottosan
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Got to spend A little more time with the amp today. I'm still waiting on the Ruby EL34BHTs to come in so I can run Hi power mode. Here is some cleans and some dirty in the medium gain clipping mode. Voice switch to the left give a slightly more scooped polite sound while retaining some nice crunch and fullness
technomancer
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That sounds great, looking forward to hearing the difference between high and low power modes
sounds sooo great~!!
btw, the tone seems in marshall territory.
i've never thought CCV is marshally in youtube clips, though Cameron modded marshall is marshall.
how can you describe the tone / feel difference between your BE-100 clone and this?
and what makes the tone more marshally than the original CCV?
btw, the tone seems in marshall territory.
i've never thought CCV is marshally in youtube clips, though Cameron modded marshall is marshall.
how can you describe the tone / feel difference between your BE-100 clone and this?
and what makes the tone more marshally than the original CCV?
scottosan
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oh man, where to start. I agree with the last poster. The thing about the CCV is that it is one of the few amps that you could actually change the settings overall character of the amp. The favorite amps that I have owned are the Bogner XTC classics. Great usable tones all over but ultimately is still had the signature Bogner tone and feel.idnotbe":1w9vnzvp said:
Now whether or not I got the CCV 100% correct (tracing a PCB isn't ideal), may always get called into question, and I'm using different transformers and a different hi/lo power design. There are some glaring mistakes and ommitions on the schematics on the web. The punch/voicing/presence/dark switch controlling the overall tone and feel of the amp is where it's at. The swithes and full sweeps are both useful and effective in all settings. This is unlike the BE100, where the voice switch is practically insignificant in its audible affects. Pot tapers are very non standard as well, and I can see why mark used them. On most amps I like to keep everything around 12:00. On this amp the tapers are much more natural and practical. Look at some of the CCV NAMM videos. Mark had most of the tone settings at 3:00 o'clock and the tone had that mid heavy cutting crunchy tone. Then look at other videos you can get a modern bottom heavy tone. Then look at ones on YouTube labelled mid gain and low gain. You can get some terrific lush mid gain tones using channel 1 and using the clippers (gain style).
The bottom line is that it would be great if these could somehow get back into production. Dont want any drama, would just love to see Mark succeed. People underestimate what it takes to go into business, both owners and buyers.
BSRIAudio
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psychodave":3a1pc4j4 said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you use a 5% tolerance on a 100k resistor, you could potentially get a 95k resistor or a 105k resistor. The difference could be 10k just on that one part between two different amps. Work that across dozens of resistors, capacitors, potentiometers, transformers and things can vary. In my original post, I never said amps will be completely different, I said slightly. This is where, IMO, Mark shines to make amps sound good to him.
Notice you didn't say amps would sound EXACTLY the same.
People misunderstand electronic component tolerances this way all the time. Tolerance sets a standard that allows for variation while still being in spec. But that doesn't mean the parts will be inconsistent. Resistors coming off the line for a set value aren't going to have a +/- 5% swing from part to part as you pull them off the tape. Its more like all the 100K resistors for 1000 pieces are going to measure 100.8K. And across those 1000 pieces you might see an overall fraction of a percentage swing. So the idea of subbing parts after the amp is finished because of tolerances would be completely insane. You would pull the traces off the board in the process of pulling parts, measuring, and replacing. If that kind of attention to consistency was important you would be much wiser to measure every single part before installing and putting together your bins of guaranteed parts. When you pick the idea apart it makes it pretty unrealistic that tweaking each amp on a per-part level is the reason the amps aren't being made. There is some other reason that isn't as full of fairy dust as "oh he just has to make each amp perfect."
psychodave
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Marykelly":5hz1r6su said:psychodave":5hz1r6su said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you use a 5% tolerance on a 100k resistor, you could potentially get a 95k resistor or a 105k resistor. The difference could be 10k just on that one part between two different amps. Work that across dozens of resistors, capacitors, potentiometers, transformers and things can vary. In my original post, I never said amps will be completely different, I said slightly. This is where, IMO, Mark shines to make amps sound good to him.
Notice you didn't say amps would sound EXACTLY the same.
People misunderstand electronic component tolerances this way all the time. Tolerance sets a standard that allows for variation while still being in spec. But that doesn't mean the parts will be inconsistent. Resistors coming off the line for a set value aren't going to have a +/- 5% swing from part to part as you pull them off the tape. Its more like all the 100K resistors for 1000 pieces are going to measure 100.8K. And across those 1000 pieces you might see an overall fraction of a percentage swing. So the idea of subbing parts after the amp is finished because of tolerances would be completely insane. You would pull the traces off the board in the process of pulling parts, measuring, and replacing. If that kind of attention to consistency was important you would be much wiser to measure every single part before installing and putting together your bins of guaranteed parts. When you pick the idea apart it makes it pretty unrealistic that tweaking each amp on a per-part level is the reason the amps aren't being made. There is some other reason that isn't as full of fairy dust as "oh he just has to make each amp perfect."
I didnt misunderstand anything. It is 100% possible to have a part with a 5% tolerance to swing 5% in either direction. Does it happen all the time, no, but it could. I typically measure parts before using them just to make sure I know what I’m using. I leave nothing to chance. Of course I’m not building production amps. Just modding amps.