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Holy smokes the combo sounds bitchin! I have one of those too.. what did you do to make it a four holer? Looks like you mounted to input jacks on the inside of the chassis so that you could wire the preamp like a plexi? Did you then also do a one wire mod and add the PPIMV? Seems like your tweaks over the years have gotten better and better though it seems like you don't change the circuit that much and are mainly working with a few extra bypass caps to get the grind?


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Good stuff as always Michael, thank you


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Holy smokes the combo sounds bitchin! I have one of those too.. what did you do to make it a four holer? Looks like you mounted to input jacks on the inside of the chassis so that you could wire the preamp like a plexi? Did you then also do a one wire mod and add the PPIMV? Seems like your tweaks over the years have gotten better and better though it seems like you don't change the circuit that much and are mainly working with a few extra bypass caps to get the grind?


Thank you! :thumbsup:
Yes, I just mounted the other two inputs to the side of the chassis.
It's a plexi 4 hole circuit with a PPIMV and my style "one wire mod"
There is about 5 or 6 circuit tweaks in the Plexi circuit that give it that early VH tone.
The circuit tweaks vary depending on the amp and the tranny's and stuff like that.

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Good stuff as always Michael, thank you


Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it. :thumbsup:

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MichaelR/T wrote:
Kapo_Polenton wrote:
Holy smokes the combo sounds bitchin! I have one of those too.. what did you do to make it a four holer? Looks like you mounted to input jacks on the inside of the chassis so that you could wire the preamp like a plexi? Did you then also do a one wire mod and add the PPIMV? Seems like your tweaks over the years have gotten better and better though it seems like you don't change the circuit that much and are mainly working with a few extra bypass caps to get the grind?


Thank you! :thumbsup:
Yes, I just mounted the other two inputs to the side of the chassis.
It's a plexi 4 hole circuit with a PPIMV and my style "one wire mod"
There is about 5 or 6 circuit tweaks in the Plexi circuit that give it that early VH tone.
The circuit tweaks vary depending on the amp and the tranny's and stuff like that.


I think a few years back you posted a few of those tweaks here.. I need to go back and look at any notes or layouts you put up. That combo sounds terrific. I had never thought about that but mounting those other two inputs inside is genius! Well thought out.


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Kapo_Polenton wrote:
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Holy smokes the combo sounds bitchin! I have one of those too.. what did you do to make it a four holer? Looks like you mounted to input jacks on the inside of the chassis so that you could wire the preamp like a plexi? Did you then also do a one wire mod and add the PPIMV? Seems like your tweaks over the years have gotten better and better though it seems like you don't change the circuit that much and are mainly working with a few extra bypass caps to get the grind?


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Yes, I just mounted the other two inputs to the side of the chassis.
It's a plexi 4 hole circuit with a PPIMV and my style "one wire mod"
There is about 5 or 6 circuit tweaks in the Plexi circuit that give it that early VH tone.
The circuit tweaks vary depending on the amp and the tranny's and stuff like that.


I think a few years back you posted a few of those tweaks here.. I need to go back and look at any notes or layouts you put up. That combo sounds terrific. I had never thought about that but mounting those other two inputs inside is genius! Well thought out.


Thank you kindly.
I don't think I've ever talked about these new circuit tweaks I designed.
Too many people like to steal the ideas and call them there own so I don't talk about them much plus it's not "cookie cutter" every amp is different and needs different circuit tweaks to keep the sound consistent.

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The super lead sounds good. But man I gotta tell ya, you nailed it on that 4010 combo. You really should document that one well, voltages, filtering, etc.


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Yup.. TOTALLY killed it on the combo. I have an 82' 4010... i am paranoid about shipping the chassis though. I'm in Ottawa so trying to figure out a way I could get it up there.. how far are you from Toronto again? If not too far out, the next time I head out there, I might be dropping it off.


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The super lead sounds good. But man I gotta tell ya, you nailed it on that 4010 combo. You really should document that one well, voltages, filtering, etc.


Thank you kindly sir!! :thumbsup:
Yeah, Ive documented the amp.
I'm going to do this same mod to the next one someone sends. :)

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Kapo_Polenton wrote:
Yup.. TOTALLY killed it on the combo. I have an 82' 4010... i am paranoid about shipping the chassis though. I'm in Ottawa so trying to figure out a way I could get it up there.. how far are you from Toronto again? If not too far out, the next time I head out there, I might be dropping it off.


I just shipped that 4010 chassis back to the customer in Winnipeg today.

I'm about a one and half hours from TO.
I'm in Collingwood.
If you want to stop by my house that would be fine as well.

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Interesting the 4010 is just like a 2204, except look at C13 in the tone stack:

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Yes I snipped that cap on mine.. it made the amp too muted and "soft". It killed the crunch. Still a mystery as to why they did that. I also changed the NFR in mine to 47 to make it more plexi ish.


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Yeah, the first thing you do with these 4010's is ditch the C13 cap.
It makes the whole circuit sound flubby.
I also like to use the 47K NFB on a 4ohms tap.
It's got the sag in the low-end but it's still nice tight & crunchy. :)

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Yeah, the first thing you do with these 4010's is ditch the C13 cap.
It makes the whole circuit sound flubby.
I also like to use the 47K NFB on a 4ohms tap.
It's got the sag in the low-end but it's still nice tight & crunchy. :)


That's what I did with my gutted Laney Pro Tubes with a PTP. It's tight! I think I am going to try a PPIMV this weekend and a couple of bypass caps. See what happens.


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Yeah, the first thing you do with these 4010's is ditch the C13 cap.
It makes the whole circuit sound flubby.
I also like to use the 47K NFB on a 4ohms tap.
It's got the sag in the low-end but it's still nice tight & crunchy. :)


That's what I did with my gutted Laney Pro Tubes with a PTP. It's tight! I think I am going to try a PPIMV this weekend and a couple of bypass caps. See what happens.


Also try cascading the front end of the circuit like this, works great with a PPIMV.

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You can't really "one wire mod" and already cascaded 2204 circuit though can you? I would think it would need to be rewired to a NMV and then have the PPIMV control the overall volume.


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Clips sounds awesome as usual. Are there any clips made by people who have your mod? I’m curious to see if their hands can replicate how you make it sound.

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You can't really "one wire mod" and already cascaded 2204 circuit though can you? I would think it would need to be rewired to a NMV and then have the PPIMV control the overall volume.


Yeah, you'd have to change it over to a 1987 circuit and then apply the mods.
Do not use the 2204 circuit, it does not sound as good as the 1987 four hole circuit.

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Clips sounds awesome as usual. Are there any clips made by people who have your mod? I’m curious to see if their hands can replicate how you make it sound.


Thank you my friend. :thumbsup:
There is a few clips of other playing through my amps but I can't share them unless you hook-up with me on facebook.
I'd say 90% of the guitarists that own my modded Marshall's play a lot better then I do.
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Clips sounds awesome as usual. Are there any clips made by people who have your mod? I’m curious to see if their hands can replicate how you make it sound.


Below is a clip of my Marshall Major that has Michael's RT mod. It definitely sounds different than Michael's clips.

Michael's videos sound killer. And, obviously, a lot of that awesome tone is definitely the amp with his mods, but his playing is a big factor too, and the speaker, and the mic and mic positioning etc etc.

I'm not really trying to replicate the tone he gets. I like low output pickups/less gain, pronounced mids and I like a tight bottom end. That's just what I gravitate toward. It takes me further away from the Van Halen thing, but it works for my tastes. This is with an SM 57 on an old UK V30. (Les Paul with a Suhr Thornbucker).

https://app.box.com/s/q3s5rm9oo4ab4mgs0pn3pjywjlunj2dj


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Clips sounds awesome as usual. Are there any clips made by people who have your mod? I’m curious to see if their hands can replicate how you make it sound.


Below is a clip of my Marshall Major that has Michael's RT mod. It definitely sounds different than Michael's clips.

Michael's videos sound killer. And, obviously, a lot of that awesome tone is definitely the amp with his mods, but his playing is a big factor too, and the speaker, and the mic and mic positioning etc etc.

I'm not really trying to replicate the tone he gets. I like low output pickups/less gain, pronounced mids and I like a tight bottom end. That's just what I gravitate toward. It takes me further away from the Van Halen thing, but it works for my tastes. This is with an SM 57 on an old UK V30. (Les Paul with a Suhr Thornbucker).

https://app.box.com/s/q3s5rm9oo4ab4mgs0pn3pjywjlunj2dj



I don't know, still sounds pretty damn sweet and your playing was buttery smooth!


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Clips sounds awesome as usual. Are there any clips made by people who have your mod? I’m curious to see if their hands can replicate how you make it sound.


Below is a clip of my Marshall Major that has Michael's RT mod. It definitely sounds different than Michael's clips.

Michael's videos sound killer. And, obviously, a lot of that awesome tone is definitely the amp with his mods, but his playing is a big factor too, and the speaker, and the mic and mic positioning etc etc.

I'm not really trying to replicate the tone he gets. I like low output pickups/less gain, pronounced mids and I like a tight bottom end. That's just what I gravitate toward. It takes me further away from the Van Halen thing, but it works for my tastes. This is with an SM 57 on an old UK V30. (Les Paul with a Suhr Thornbucker).

https://app.box.com/s/q3s5rm9oo4ab4mgs0pn3pjywjlunj2dj


Sounds great. Less gain than Michael’s clips.

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Thanks guys. And yes Dave, definitely less gain. More drive is definitely there if you want it though. And it does sound great that way too. It's just that the older I get, the more I find myself turning down the gain on all of my amps.

Other than the one wire mod, I don't really know what Michael did to this amp. All I know is that it sounds incredible and I'm super happy that he took the time to hook me up with this Marshall.


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Clips sounds awesome as usual. Are there any clips made by people who have your mod? I’m curious to see if their hands can replicate how you make it sound.


Below is a clip of my Marshall Major that has Michael's RT mod. It definitely sounds different than Michael's clips.

Michael's videos sound killer. And, obviously, a lot of that awesome tone is definitely the amp with his mods, but his playing is a big factor too, and the speaker, and the mic and mic positioning etc etc.

I'm not really trying to replicate the tone he gets. I like low output pickups/less gain, pronounced mids and I like a tight bottom end. That's just what I gravitate toward. It takes me further away from the Van Halen thing, but it works for my tastes. This is with an SM 57 on an old UK V30. (Les Paul with a Suhr Thornbucker).

https://app.box.com/s/q3s5rm9oo4ab4mgs0pn3pjywjlunj2dj


Thank you my friend for posting this sound clip. :thumbsup:
It's one of my favorite sound clips and your guitar playing sounds awesome. :rock:
I love this kinda tone with the cleaner gain structure. :thumbsup:

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I kinda dialed in the same tone as littleguitars.
I used my Blackmachine 8 with my '71 JMP Super Lead (Plexi R/T mod) and ran it through my Eminence Wizards.
It's a little brighter but that's just the way I like it personally.
I really like to cut through the mix in a live setting. :)


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Sounds good Michael. I like all the clips you've made with those wizard speakers. The greenbacks sound great too though. When I first got the Major, I was thinking about getting some greenbacks to pair up with it, but I like to play fairly loud and I'm not sure that's a good idea given the wattage of those speakers. I'm thinking about picking up some wizards or maybe even some Lynchbacks to see how those work out for me.


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Sounds good Michael. I like all the clips you've made with those wizard speakers. The greenbacks sound great too though. When I first got the Major, I was thinking about getting some greenbacks to pair up with it, but I like to play fairly loud and I'm not sure that's a good idea given the wattage of those speakers. I'm thinking about picking up some wizards or maybe even some Lynchbacks to see how those work out for me.


Thank you Bro! :thumbsup:
I can't believe how good these Eminence Wizards sound.
They sounded awesome with the Major as well.
We dialed in some of the best tones I've ever heard with those speakers and that amp head. :yes:

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For sure. It sounded incredible. That's when I started my hunt for a Marshall Major.

With respect to the Wizard speakers, I've read that cone cry can be an issue with them. Have you noticed any cry when you start pushing those speakers?


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For sure. It sounded incredible. That's when I started my hunt for a Marshall Major.

With respect to the Wizard speakers, I've read that cone cry can be an issue with them. Have you noticed any cry when you start pushing those speakers?


I've never noticed any cone cry before with these speakers.
I think the type of glue Eminence uses helps prevent any cone cry at louder volumes.

Helps prevent the speaker from rippling and keeps it acting like a piston when driven hard.

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Sounds great !


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Sounds great !


Thank you kindly sir!! :thumbsup:

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