Audioholic
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Man, this Kemper Old school looking computer thing seems pretty fricken neat. Def an Axe Alternative and beyond maybe. will be interesting as they are starting to ship here in the U.S. to see how they hold up
Man, this Kemper Old school looking computer thing seems pretty fricken neat. Def an Axe Alternative and beyond maybe. will be interesting as they are starting to ship here in the U.S. to see how they hold up
SFW
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I have a feeling that the Kemper is going to be a game changer.
fluff191
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SFW":2734cclb said:
Digital Jams
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Interesting piece of gear.
Juggernaut
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I'm really curious about these as well
shred-o-holic
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That was pretty funny..........and it sounded good too...
Audioholic
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SFW":1p9jfsxz said:
yes I think so as well. I was actually contemplating an Axe II, I have the standard. BUT always willing to try new things. Cliff is a genius, and supports his product 100 percent with updates and improvements. But I can see the Kemper really being the go to device over time if it really lives up, because in the end, the goal is to get a real sounding amp tone, and from what I have heard from various profiling etc, it sounds pretty darn near identical to the mic'd versions, add to that some peeps contributing and sharing GREAT profiles, this thing could be an axe killer for sure, except for those needing all the efx that come into the Axe FX. I honestly don't have anything personally invested in either yet, so if Kemper does seem to have a solid product like many hope, and the initial reports seem quite positive, I think I will try it out sometime. Not to mention it is priced lower then the Axe FX.
dwizted
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Wow man thats insane picks up all the fizz and everything from that tripple rec. Me likes 
fluff191
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Is it cheaper than the Axe???? Well shit I will buy a Kemper then!
Audioholic
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fluff191":1zovgkfe said:
I think you can buy the Axe Now without wait list for like 2500. I think if you get on the coupon wait list, which may be a few months you can snag it for what, 2100?? Kemper is being sold at sweetwater for under 1900... its not in stock, but I know that they have shipped some of the pre orders.
Joeytpg
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this will be a recording studio's go to. I can see producers having tons and tons of patches and profiling...just mic the guitar player's amp with as many mic as you need to, profile it and then tear the setup apart.
definitely a game changer it it works as it should.
definitely a game changer it it works as it should.
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jcj
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Anxious to try one, although I don't think it will be an Axe killer.
I think most of the people that REALLY dig the Axe are way into the flexibility.
We'll see
I think most of the people that REALLY dig the Axe are way into the flexibility.
We'll see
Audioholic
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Joeytpg":14w3s9ve said:
Well there will always be micing of amps etc. There is something about how a good room sounds, adding multiple mics etc. I see more or less us home bodies who don't have access to multiple amps and well profiled cabs... I still think it will shine for the home use guy over the good studio recording setups. but you never know, definetally quicker..
Audioholic
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jcj":2j151ie6 said:Anxious to try one, although I don't think it will be an Axe killer.
I think most of the people that REALLY dig the Axe are way into the flexibility.
We'll see
yeah def won't Kill the axe entirely but you can bet it will put a huge dent in some clientelle. I mean already on TGP there is Axe VS Kemper debates and some cats favoring the Kemper. While they are 2 different approaches for sure, the Kemper offers something the Axe, or any other digital modeler has offered to Date, being able to profile amps, whenever you want. That IS a game changer in the approach and technology, as far as basic core tones is concerned. Axe will always have great efx and great sounding stuff, but it won't be able to do what the kemper is doing.
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jcj
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Audioholic":1zm7iexx said:jcj":1zm7iexx said:Anxious to try one, although I don't think it will be an Axe killer.
I think most of the people that REALLY dig the Axe are way into the flexibility.
We'll see
yeah def won't Kill the axe entirely but you can bet it will put a huge dent in some clientelle. I mean already on TGP there is Axe VS Kemper debates and some cats favoring the Kemper. While they are 2 different approaches for sure, the Kemper offers something the Axe, or any other digital modeler has offered to Date, being able to profile amps, whenever you want. That IS a game changer in the approach and technology, as far as basic core tones is concerned. Axe will always have great efx and great sounding stuff, but it won't be able to do what the kemper is doing.
Oh I totally agree.....as a matter of fact, the Kemper would probably be a better choice for me....I'm probably one of the few who doesn't tweak the he'll out of my Standard
The thing I do really dig about the Axe, is the ability to create totally different stuff....
Does the Kemper do that? I haven't been following along...
Shark Diver
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Audioholic":fcabl5tj said:jcj":fcabl5tj said:Anxious to try one, although I don't think it will be an Axe killer.
I think most of the people that REALLY dig the Axe are way into the flexibility.
We'll see
yeah def won't Kill the axe entirely but you can bet it will put a huge dent in some clientelle. I mean already on TGP there is Axe VS Kemper debates and some cats favoring the Kemper. While they are 2 different approaches for sure, the Kemper offers something the Axe, or any other digital modeler has offered to Date, being able to profile amps, whenever you want. That IS a game changer in the approach and technology, as far as basic core tones is concerned. Axe will always have great efx and great sounding stuff, but it won't be able to do what the kemper is doing.
Seems it would just come down to what sounds better. Most people will be downloading profiles for either. How many end users will really be able to have access to all the different amps they may want for the Kempler, and then the access to the cabs and mics and the ability to mic correctly? IMO it will just be which sounds better to the individual, since again, most will simply use profiles done by others.
Joeytpg
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Audioholic":2qnzvbi5 said:
yeah but I'm not talking about huge producers that have access to the big studios. I'm referring to the small/mid producer/musician. Still I think it'll be a great tool because you can use the amp you like WITH THE MICS you want...... iwth the Axe fx you're stuck with what Fractal dialed.
cyndicate
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I wonder what a music store would say if you sat around all day profiling all their boutique amps lol.
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fearhk213
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That's my thought as well. I imagine most users will be using profiles made by the few who have the ability to make nice ones, which brings up my question about the unit. Since the profiles are captured from a tone dialed in for a particular sound with a particular guitar & pickup and the Kemper doesn't model the amp's controls, how well does the profile respond to eq & gain adjustments within the Kemper? That's what I'm really interested in hearing about.Shark Diver":3ghbvwuv said:Audioholic":3ghbvwuv said:jcj":3ghbvwuv said:Anxious to try one, although I don't think it will be an Axe killer.
I think most of the people that REALLY dig the Axe are way into the flexibility.
We'll see
yeah def won't Kill the axe entirely but you can bet it will put a huge dent in some clientelle. I mean already on TGP there is Axe VS Kemper debates and some cats favoring the Kemper. While they are 2 different approaches for sure, the Kemper offers something the Axe, or any other digital modeler has offered to Date, being able to profile amps, whenever you want. That IS a game changer in the approach and technology, as far as basic core tones is concerned. Axe will always have great efx and great sounding stuff, but it won't be able to do what the kemper is doing.
Seems it would just come down to what sounds better. Most people will be downloading profiles for either. How many end users will really be able to have access to all the different amps they may want for the Kempler, and then the access to the cabs and mics and the ability to mic correctly? IMO it will just be which sounds better to the individual, since again, most will simply use profiles done by others.
Mizati20
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Does it still use the power section of the amp? Is it solid state power? Forgive me, I'm too lazy to look it up on their annoying site...
There's definitely a slight difference in sound, but if I closed my eyes and didn't know which was which after awhile I couldn't tell which was which, and I definitely don't think either sound "better", was a little more low end with the Kemper but as Ola stated that was with zero tweaking, seems at though that could be very easily dialed out... man, I may just pick one of these up and drive all around the United States stealing peoples sounds from their amps!
There's definitely a slight difference in sound, but if I closed my eyes and didn't know which was which after awhile I couldn't tell which was which, and I definitely don't think either sound "better", was a little more low end with the Kemper but as Ola stated that was with zero tweaking, seems at though that could be very easily dialed out... man, I may just pick one of these up and drive all around the United States stealing peoples sounds from their amps!