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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:42pm 
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Got this in today and man I have to say I really love it ! A ton of different tones and features in this box, talk about ahead of his time , Elan is / was the man, great great great sounding preamp! DINO fear factory tones galore , plus killer cleans and crunch tones, you can blend the two channels if you want to which is pretty interesting, the fx loop and switching works killer to....

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Killer. EMG 81 & V30s used in the clip ?

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thanks! actually it was with my carvin dc127 with suhr doug aldrich pickups, and celestion cl80 / H30 anniversary in x pattern in an old marshall cab....


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killer thrashy tone...digging it :rock:

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Those are cool preamps...I did an amp mod loosely based off of that and it's super fun to play.

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Those are cool preamps...I did an amp mod loosely based off of that and it's super fun to play.


was that my amp by chance?

killer sounding preamp man, i don't suppose there are many of those around. :rock:

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That sounded AWESOME!! :rock: :rock:

The tone reminded me of this demo of a fortin modded marshall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEhFg1_JmjM


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thanks guys, this thing is so cool , was just playing it for about 2 hours, really unique sound a feel....


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Dude that was a whole bag of thrashy goodness. Thanks for posting it. I dug it. HNAD!

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Dude that was a whole bag of thrashy goodness. Thanks for posting it. I dug it. HNAD!



thanks! :rock:


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Do like these tones.


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Very cool.

I take it that this is some old rare thing that is impossible to find?


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Very cool.

I take it that this is some old rare thing that is impossible to find?



yea they're pretty hard to find these days, doesn't seem like there are many around, but they can be found sometimes....


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Can't find anything about these guys. Im assuming no longer in business? Any links of info about them?

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Can't find anything about these guys. Im assuming no longer in business? Any links of info about them?



This is what I know about Metal Head Electronics , it was Elan and His brother,

Initially back in late 2007 M@rk C@meron and I had been discussing a Fender twin head that he had been trying a new circuit out with. He was saying that it sounded killer and was similar to an ELAN mod. At that time I had no idea what that was, but after checking the amp out and playing it at his place I decided that's the mod I wanted in my Marshall that he was going to mod. He had explained Elan and his brother owned metalhead electronics, and that he knew him and was going to work with him but then they went out of business. I attached a bad old cell phone picture of the fender twin that had this circuit in it, it was the best cameron mod I ever played to date. The high gain channel had 3 preamp gain controls just like this preamp does and they all sort of dialed in the gain voicing a little differently. Sadly, I never got the mod after waiting for almost 5 years but was able to at least get my amp back thanks to a friend, I did lose the money I gave for the mod though...

I know that Elan worked for yamaha as an engineer at some point and was doing marshall mods and made a few preamps of his own in the early 90's , and then designed some stuff for german company excalibur and another company where he made a power amp for, i think it was called axis or something? I think that deal went sour and he moved to florida and is out of the game for many years, which I think is a shame.

This preamp is very ahead of it's time for sure, killer clean channel, over the top hi gain channel with 3 preamp gain controls, DC heaters, built in noise gate, tube buffered fx loop , channel switching( clean, crunch, lead) blend channel feature and so on...

Ever since I heard that amp at C@merons place, I wanted this tone, and finally after many years i'm glad I have it! :rock:

Oh and I know Dino from FF used his Marshall mods which is supposed to be just like this preamp or very close, rare to find preamp and mods if you find one grab it ! pretty cool piece of history and killer sounding :rock:


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Man, that sounds cool! Dino's tone on Obsolete is my all-time favorite rhythm guitar sound and I can hear it there. Gotta find one of those now! :rock:


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Man, that sounds cool! Dino's tone on Obsolete is my all-time favorite rhythm guitar sound and I can hear it there. Gotta find one of those now! :rock:


You can also get there with a boosted 2 ch recto :thumbsup:
I nail these tones with EMG equipped guitars which are also part of the equation.

I recall he used Line 6 Pod Pro rackmounts running through a Mesa 2:90 for his Digimortal tones.
I recall him using his modded Marshall on Obsolete before it got stolen on tour.

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That's what we're talking about. The Metal Head (Elan) modded Marshall. Same mod as the preamp above from what I understand (that urinal cake thing they would put inside amps). I've owned a couple of 2 channel Dual Recs back when I had EMGs in my guitars. DRs are great but the tone stack and distortion character are nothing like the sound above. It sounds more like the hifi kind of distortion that my Engl SE had. Tight.


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yea the rectifier isn't even close to this honestly... really different feel and sound when your playing it, I'd describe this like a fat sounding marshall, fairly tight , it's almost kinda like an engl savage, meets a great sounding modded marshall...


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Thats the Axis Excalibur Preamp "father", right?
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that's sounds pretty cool never heard of these

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Every now and then an Axis Excalibur Pre pops up on german ebay . . .

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I just bought an Excalibur from a guy in Germany a few days ago. Guess I'll have to figure out what to do for a transformer replacement if I decide to keep it. I'm going to use a step up transformer in the meantime.


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richardt4520 wrote:
I just bought an Excalibur from a guy in Germany a few days ago. Guess I'll have to figure out what to do for a transformer replacement if I decide to keep it. I'm going to use a step up transformer in the meantime.



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Hey guys thank you for posting this very cool video and comments. I am Elan's brother and we use to own Metalhead Electronics back in the days. Just to let you guys know we are thinking on reviving the AMP and Preamp and come out with the Elan MKIII (updated to today's environment) and a FULL head as well.
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That would be amazing , I would love to check one out !

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Absolutely! Would definitely love to check one out as well! There are a lot of guitarists out there who love the sound Dino Cazares got out of his Elan modded Marshalls so I think you'd already have a lot of interested customers.


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Weird. I was just thinking about this thread the other day.....


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I have 2 Metalhead Marshalls and they're awesome! They definitely bring something different to the table.


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I almost had one that was up on ebay 2 years ago...it was a JMP 50, late 70s that had an 'unknown' mod to it..guy wanted 850 shipped. It had that signature "urinal cake" inside the chassis....had the cash the next day but it was gone... :aww:

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The Excalibur preamp that Elan got screwed on was the Axis Excalibur EP-1. If you search my username on photobucket you can see pictures of it. Unfortunately I cannot comment on how it sounded because when I got it, it came damaged and DoA. I had it repaired at Savage Amps (don't ever go to them for amp work, ever) and I'm 99.9% sure they fucked it up and didn't repair it right while charging me an arm and a leg.

I've wanted to buy another one that is not fucked to see if it really does sound like my repaired one did, or if it really is amazing like every other Elan modded/made thing I've heard.

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I picked up an Excalibur a year or so ago on eBay. It was in a bit rough condition. The push-pull knob that controls the noise gate wasn't working. That was too bad I thought because I had read the noise gate being engaged was part of what made it sound more metal. I opened it up and found that a resistor had come desoldered. Soldered it back on and everything worked!

It has the heaviest tone of anything I've tried and is the closest thing I've heard to the Demanufacture tone. It loves downtuned guitars. I used an ESP with EMGs tuned to B. Sounds great!

What it doesn't like is an E standard guitar with mid-gain pickups, especially if you roll the volume knob on the guitar back. Nope. And yuck. The Excalibur is pure metal. Put a guitar with high output pickups through it, tuned low, with the volume knob at max. :rock:

One thing is weird about it. It is extremely picky about tubes! I've never encountered anything like this. There are certain tube positions where swapping the preamp tube for another brand will cause one channel's gain to change dramatically. In some cases in a very bad way. I did some tube rolling and settled on a combination that works well. But I could see how somebody would think this thing sounds awful just because of the tubes used, or because of one of the tubes in one of the positions.

It's a unique preamp though. If you want metal it's quite impressive with the right tubes and paired up with the right guitar.


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Sounds killer :rock: :rock:
I never had any luck running a preamp into an amp. The line level signals were too much going in (I guess) Is the Elan a line level out?
It sounds like it matched up pretty good. Is the Marshall stock? I know you have some killer modded Marshalls.
Thats a killer combo, I guess I'm trying to figure out why. I've tried it with some different preamps/amps over the years with no success.
Just thinking out loud, any info would be appreciated ;)

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Sounds killer :rock: :rock:
I never had any luck running a preamp into an amp. The line level signals were too much going in (I guess) Is the Elan a line level out?
It sounds like it matched up pretty good. Is the Marshall stock? I know you have some killer modded Marshalls.
Thats a killer combo, I guess I'm trying to figure out why. I've tried it with some different preamps/amps over the years with no success.
Just thinking out loud, any info would be appreciated ;)

It's line level but there's an easy fix for using it with an amp! Just run it straight into the amp's effects loop return. That will bypass the amp's preamp and it should be expecting a line level signal at the effects return.


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True, I just did not know if thats how he was running it (or not)
So that tone is all Elan?

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Hey guys like I promised

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/58 ... guitar-amp

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Seems like there's a tube pedal coming out:
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Seems like there's a tube pedal coming out:
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Is a shame nobody was interested in the Kickstarter.

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Is a shame nobody was interested in the Kickstarter.

Did you see this? 460 bucks for a smaller version of the rack preamp........The DINO! http://metalheadamps.com/
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dawnofdreamx97 wrote:
Got this in today and man I have to say I really love it ! A ton of different tones and features in this box, talk about ahead of his time , Elan is / was the man, great great great sounding preamp! DINO fear factory tones galore , plus killer cleans and crunch tones, you can blend the two channels if you want to which is pretty interesting, the fx loop and switching works killer to....

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I now really want one of these. could build a great rack rig around this.


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That little preamp pedal would be fun as hell!

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PostPosted: Tue, Nov 14, 2017 3:31pm 
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Jeremy wrote:
That little preamp pedal would be fun as hell!

I think it's an actual preamp, mini version with a pedal line out to bypass? Looks like 2 separate pieces. Pretty cool and from the original designer!

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PostPosted: Tue, Nov 14, 2017 3:56pm 
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Racerxrated wrote:
maddnotez wrote:
Is a shame nobody was interested in the Kickstarter.

Did you see this? 460 bucks for a smaller version of the rack preamp........The DINO! http://metalheadamps.com/
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Gonna check these out at NAMM for sure!

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PostPosted: Tue, Nov 14, 2017 9:19pm 
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I bought one a couple of months ago. It sounds like shit, no matter how i used it.

Guys, don't do the same mistake i made!

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