Van Halen Official web site selling HAGAR things??
- Thread starter Mailman1971
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On the Roth / Hager posts i have add. Not the OP but i guess we love our opinions. Van Halen became Night Ranger with Hager or no disrespect to NR became another 80s guitar/keyboards band with girly vocals. I liked the music and always liked Sammy. Liked him in fn Montrose more than Van Halen. His singing is unreal, range,pitch control etc... Roth was a better fit with the music Van Halen wrote. When SH joined the music changed. Roth had the swag needed to put VH on the map a d delivered. Then the world loved the guitar hero and the end of VH began. If not why would VH release the live stuff on disc when Roth can't live up to his own standards vocally anymore? Pretty lame. I'm glad to have expierienced the only Van Halen cause anything after Fair Warning is watered down trying to re-invent the wheel 2nd hand bla..yes 1984 has some cool shit on it. To me it's the beginning of the end and 30 years later Ed tries to save it after he's out lived his massive drunken ego..sorry. Not into it. Bad ass undoubtedly.. managed poorly
Rick Lee
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I love 1984 as much as FW. I got the first album when it came out and am a lifelong fan. Ed's playing on 1984 is simply smoking. Who care about the whopping two keyboard songs? I listen to the others and always skip Jump and I'll Wait. GGB, DDL and HOP are uneffingreal. How can anyone on a guitar chat board not like everything about those tunes? They have groove, tone and chops for days. What's not to like?
Rick Lee
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Beandust":14o4bqwi said:
Ah yes, I missed this ringing endorsement.
"I'm glad to have expierienced the only Van Halen cause anything after Fair Warning is watered down trying to re-invent the wheel 2nd hand bla..yes 1984 has some cool shit on it. To me it's the beginning of the end and 30 years later Ed tries to save it after he's out lived his massive drunken ego..sorry. Not into it. Bad ass undoubtedly.. managed poorly"
I like this song alot. Dan Martin of the former St. Charles Guitar Exchange flew out to CA to Ed's place and sold him guitars for years.
Dan sold me my first Marshall JMP for $375 in 1982'.
I bought & sold stuff from him over 20 years, he always treated me right.
Like anything else original is better.
I prefer solo Hagar stuff to VH stuff.
They all have been playing great stuff for 50 years.
Montrose fan since like forever.
IndyWS6
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The DJ's on Hair Nation have been talking about "Van Halen murmurings" for weeks now. Supposedly, Sam said that he would be willing to do a tour as long as both Dave and Michael were part of it and they play songs from both versions of the band. It's probably a bunch of bullshit, but that's something I would go see. But, we all know how reliable Van Halen reunions and tour rumors are... 
Chester Nimitz":1wjjtq8g said:jlb32":1wjjtq8g said:
Hell yeah! I think Eddie sounded better with Soldano than anything else. His early tone was revolutionary because it was different and it was Eddie but IMO Eddie never has sounded better than he did in his Soldano years. Just my opinion.
Red_Label
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jlb32":368u3ajg said:Chester Nimitz":368u3ajg said:jlb32":368u3ajg said:
Hell yeah! I think Eddie sounded better with Soldano than anything else. His early tone was revolutionary because it was different and it was Eddie but IMO Eddie never has sounded better than he did in his Soldano years. Just my opinion.
"Help me find the gear to get the tones from the Van Hagar albums"... said almost no one ever on a guitar forum. Why is that? Is it solely because his gear was less of a mystery in later years? Or is it because it was so revolutionary and on the edge in earlier years? Likely for both reasons. But the simple FACT of the matter is that his later tones were MUCH easier to get a close match with than his early tones were. They STILL are (even with all of the brown sound amp options that we now have).
At any rate... I love Eddie's tone and playing on Drop Dead Legs, Seventh Seal, and other mid-late VH material. But it's not even close to being as iconic as the tones on VH1-FW. Having been active on web guitar forums since they were bulletin boards... I've seen a thousand brown sound threads and very few dedicated to his later tones. A long time friend used to gig material from 5150 and OU812 when it was new and easily replicated those tones on his Marshall JMP-1 preamp and 9000 series power amp. They just weren't as iconic and difficult to recreate.
So while "better" may be subjective, thousands of internet threads (and magazine articles before the web) regarding his early brown sound clearly indicate which sound masses of guitarists prefer and concern themselves with.
Mailman1971
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Been listening to 'can't stop loving you' like non stop the past few weeks.
Van Hagar put out some great tunes.
Van Hagar put out some great tunes.
IMO musically Sheehan & Vai had more creativity going on than Sam & Ed.
Was that to do with a steady diet of Heineken & Coke by Ed .... IDK, maybe.
But thats why Sam left VH.
Mailman1971
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Went to a garage sale yesterday and got "Live without a Net" DVD for fifty cents. 
Good stuff there.
Good stuff there.
