Helix Native BRÜTAL Tone Test! LOL!
- Thread starter JerEvil
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errrrrl
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Very cool! I guess I am getting similar tones with Native after all.JerEvil":27yrc04o said:
Maybe you can help me crack the code or tone rather. Are you able to get a good S.O.D - March of the SOD tone? It's the JUG JUG parts that don't sound good or thick to me in Helix, drives me nuts. Or even the palm muted parts of For whom the bell tolls aka JUG JUG JUG JUG part. If Helix can replicate that I'd be all over it.
napalmdeath
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errrrrl":kl5k9epi said:
I've been studying the Helix inside and out of late. I'm convinced their amp modeling still sucks. Effects are great, high gain amps, still suck.
atrox
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I dunno. I was able to match my BE-100 damn near perfectly with an IR. I also plugged the Helix into my return on the BE-100, using the Placater preamp model only and i couldn't tell the difference in tone when going back and forth between the actual amp and the Helix. There was a difference in dynamics, but full bore... the tone was fucking exact enough to where i was trying to control effects in the Helix and wondered why it wan't working. i was plugged into the actual amp at that point.
I realize that a BE-100 isn't really a hi-gain head compared to many though
I realize that a BE-100 isn't really a hi-gain head compared to many though
napalmdeath
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errrrrl":g6zyiv9z said:
I'm looking pretty hard at the AX8. It seems light-years ahead of the Line6, as far as amp modeling. I only use the basic chorus, delay, reverb, with maybe phase and flange, so I don't need 100's of effects.
My problem is, I want maybe 5-6 high quality amps/cabs, and the basic effects. I'm finding either overkill, or shitty models.
I'm waiting on the Atomic Amplifire 6. But, I've contacted them both on their website and in Reverb with no replies. I've read that their Customer Service sucks.. THAT is a huge deal-breaker for me. There's only 2 reviews on their site on the AA12, and both were negatives with no responses to return the units because of issues.
napalmdeath":1qkoxp4c said:
I am not an expert on the modelers but I guess you would feel the same way even with the AX8.
IMO modelers today are amazing. But you will never get the feel and response/dynamics that you can get from a tube amp. The technology just isn't there yet.
I did own an AX8 and it was amazing. Best recorded tones I have ever had honestly but I just can't get the same tube amp feel which is important to me. Maybe with the right FRFR? idk.
JerEvil
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We will definitely have to agree to disagree here. I have owned both and I'll take the Helix any day of the week, hands down. It all comes down to the individual user though that's for sure. Like my grandfather used to say, "one mans chicken is another mans steak."napalmdeath":27aajjrz said:
No chance in hell Atomic would get another penny from me.
errrrrl
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The thing for me is that I just can't get that super thick palm muted sound aka jug jug aka chug chug whatever lol. Even with my suhr RL and IR's, it's not quite the same as a mic'd up cab. I think it has something to do with the air moving from the speaker/cab and what not.slyym":3h2pqzby said:
@Jer if you do stumble across a good Helix native setting that gets that tone i'm looking for by all means dude would love to try it, thanks!
Sierra Voodoo
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Fuckin' A!! Love S.O.D.!! One of the most brutal tones ever IMHO! Would love to see the Helix duplicate this!!errrrrl":17s8r52w said:
Sierra Voodoo
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Sounded great! I think a tad more high end and its there.errrrrl":2frccajp said:
Beyond Black
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Yup, add some hair on the high end like Anthrax/SOD had and you're really close. Ian's SOD tone was positively sick. One of the most brutal guitar tones of all time.JerEvil":xiwvqgtg said:
