Beandust":1bpiyu22 said:Is this how a Splawn sounds? Or is this a delay demo? Wouldn't say I dont like it but a modeler with 68 amps and they all sound like the original amp its modeling is complete horse shit! That fucking chip ain't that big. Sorry! Or is it 250+ amps either way its snake oil. That does not mean this isnt a good product or it does not sound good. It's a rack effect with distortion and effects and yes it does sound good. 250+ amps in a 2U 19" rack is really obnoxious. I'd rather believe I can ride a bicycle to the moon.
Why? This is rigtalk. Maybe search knitting or soft batch amp threads lmaool maybe u have something to add to my opinion instead of your wanna be therapist attempt? Funny311splawndude":s17ctklj said:Beandust":s17ctklj said:Is this how a Splawn sounds? Or is this a delay demo? Wouldn't say I dont like it but a modeler with 68 amps and they all sound like the original amp its modeling is complete horse shit! That fucking chip ain't that big. Sorry! Or is it 250+ amps either way its snake oil. That does not mean this isnt a good product or it does not sound good. It's a rack effect with distortion and effects and yes it does sound good. 250+ amps in a 2U 19" rack is really obnoxious. I'd rather believe I can ride a bicycle to the moon.
Wow dude. Relax.
Beandust":29u8nzl3 said:Is this how a Splawn sounds? Or is this a delay demo? Wouldn't say I dont like it but a modeler with 68 amps and they all sound like the original amp its modeling is complete horse shit! That fucking chip ain't that big. Sorry! Or is it 250+ amps either way its snake oil. That does not mean this isnt a good product or it does not sound good. It's a rack effect with distortion and effects and yes it does sound good. 250+ amps in a 2U 19" rack is really obnoxious. I'd rather believe I can ride a bicycle to the moon.
Hey that's a great example of a nice recorded comparison. And, the AXE records incredibly well and put a great tone out direct to the FOH. Saves a ton of space on the road, and makes recording a breeze compared to a mic in front of a cab etc. Great tool.peterc52":19v209nh said:Beandust":19v209nh said:Is this how a Splawn sounds? Or is this a delay demo? Wouldn't say I dont like it but a modeler with 68 amps and they all sound like the original amp its modeling is complete horse shit! That fucking chip ain't that big. Sorry! Or is it 250+ amps either way its snake oil. That does not mean this isnt a good product or it does not sound good. It's a rack effect with distortion and effects and yes it does sound good. 250+ amps in a 2U 19" rack is really obnoxious. I'd rather believe I can ride a bicycle to the moon.
When I got my AX8 I loved it. So easy to use, and it sounded really good. Like any solid state pre or amp, you don't have to fight the unit ie it is very forgiving and easy to play. But it had to happen...let's compare it to my amps. And that was my mistake lol...no matter how I ran it with an FRFR speaker or tube power it just didn't compare to my tube amps.peterc52":zp0c56zv said:I should note that I would never use a axe-fx live or in a band. I use mine only for practice because of the easy volume control. But can’t deny it sounds good.
Would you say the ax8 was not as good or feel wise when comparing to tube amps? I had one for 3 weeks and tried every value on the power amp section and got pretty frustratedRacerxrated":1rsfdszx said:When I got my AX8 I loved it. So easy to use, and it sounded really good. Like any solid state pre or amp, you don't have to fight the unit ie it is very forgiving and easy to play. But it had to happen...let's compare it to my amps. And that was my mistake lol...no matter how I ran it with an FRFR speaker or tube power it just didn't compare to my tube amps.peterc52":1rsfdszx said:I should note that I would never use a axe-fx live or in a band. I use mine only for practice because of the easy volume control. But can’t deny it sounds good.
No, it's really not even close. Can't be compared to a tube amp for that reason mainly. Granted I didn't mess with tweaking this or that, or buying cab sims...I figured if it's that far off out of the box, no amount of tweaking was gonna make me happy. Tried FRFR and the FX return of a 100w C+.Beandust":257uz9xc said:Would you say the ax8 was not as good or feel wise when comparing to tube amps? I had one for 3 weeks and tried every value on the power amp section and got pretty frustratedRacerxrated":257uz9xc said:When I got my AX8 I loved it. So easy to use, and it sounded really good. Like any solid state pre or amp, you don't have to fight the unit ie it is very forgiving and easy to play. But it had to happen...let's compare it to my amps. And that was my mistake lol...no matter how I ran it with an FRFR speaker or tube power it just didn't compare to my tube amps.peterc52":257uz9xc said:I should note that I would never use a axe-fx live or in a band. I use mine only for practice because of the easy volume control. But can’t deny it sounds good.
Thanks T!!! Couldn't agree moreRacerxrated":2c8yaygo said:No, it's really not even close. Can't be compared to a tube amp for that reason mainly. Granted I didn't mess with tweaking this or that, or buying cab sims...I figured if it's that far off out of the box, no amount of tweaking was gonna make me happy.Beandust":2c8yaygo said:Would you say the ax8 was not as good or feel wise when comparing to tube amps? I had one for 3 weeks and tried every value on the power amp section and got pretty frustratedRacerxrated":2c8yaygo said:When I got my AX8 I loved it. So easy to use, and it sounded really good. Like any solid state pre or amp, you don't have to fight the unit ie it is very forgiving and easy to play. But it had to happen...let's compare it to my amps. And that was my mistake lol...no matter how I ran it with an FRFR speaker or tube power it just didn't compare to my tube amps.peterc52":2c8yaygo said:I should note that I would never use a axe-fx live or in a band. I use mine only for practice because of the easy volume control. But can’t deny it sounds good.
I think it's a great product for certain uses, but if you love your favorite tube amps and want to replace them with the AXE, sooner or later you're gonna miss the real thing.
Adding one to your collection is a better idea.
Beandust":16ghvw5a said:That's quite interesting. That's definitely doing a solid comparison! I should just get over it. I just cant understand the whole amp modeler debate. I dont understand the marketing personally. The damn thing sounds good. Why does it have to be sold as it sounds like something it isnt or is supposed to be or sounds exactly like ...etc.. etc. Just my opinion of course. They obviously have a huge data base of satisfied customers. If they didnt market it as 268 amp models would people not buy it? There are many reasons to have and like one ,the easy set up and and the small footprint is impressive. I wouldn't turn my nose up to it as well as I wouldn't wear a fake Rolex. Maybe one day it can be presented as it's own sound and not piggyback off every amp that's ever been played in one small Rack..and maybe it can have power amp as well seeing its rack mount gear and SS
Totally agreed. I've been saying this for awhile and I don't know what it is but Marshall/Marshall style amps seem to be the hardest to recreate with modeling. I don't know if it is the frequency response or the way notes pop or what. Maybe it has to do with the fact that a lot of our favorite tunes were done on Marshalls back in the day and our ears are more critical maybe?Racerxrated":119v4z09 said:But in the room, A/B ing a Marshall preset with a real JMP 2204 it was no contest, not even close, on any level whatsoever. No feel, responsiveness was bleh and overall tone was not really close at all with the real thing.