Speaker choices for BE-100: Creambacks?

MoosOnAir

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Hi guys,

I went down the rabbit hole of "finding the right speaker for my amp, even though the old ones are fine". Last weekend, I stripped an old 4x12 cab of it's speakers and put in 4 different speakers. I soldered a selector switch together, that enabled me to switch speakers on the fly. Downside to the experiment: I only had one of each. I used some old (mid '80 / '90) Celestions, which sounded horrible, IMO. I also had a Celestion V30, WGS Invader 50 and a Celestion G12M-65 Creamback, which sounded cool!

I found that I liked the Creamback a lot, at least: on it's own, in a 4x12 enclosure without the backplate on. I compared it to my gig-cab, which is a Bogner 412 with V30 / Greenback speakers. There's something in the V30 sound that I recognized from using it in the 412 I stripped and my Bogner cab. It's in the high mid frequencies - not something that I dislike or love; just always there.

The Creamback didn't have that and I think I liked it better. I see other Friedman cabs being offered with Creamback speakers, but the normal 412 is still with V30 / Greenback speakers. I am thinking along the lines of a G12M-65 Creamback / G12H-75 Creamback combination for a 412 cabinet.

Anybody tried a 412 (or smaller) filled with Creambacks for their BE-100?
 
My Friedman cab is filled with the H75 Creambacks. I went that rout after recording and being able to hear the isolated speakers. The GB's sounded great, but the v30's sounded like bright, icky ass.

I went to the H75 and it sounds glorious. Full. No annoying upper mid thing. Just really well balanced in ever frequency.
 
atrox":93y4yl6r said:
My Friedman cab is filled with the H75 Creambacks. I went that rout after recording and being able to hear the isolated speakers. The GB's sounded great, but the v30's sounded like bright, icky ass.

I went to the H75 and it sounds glorious. Full. No annoying upper mid thing. Just really well balanced in ever frequency.
This made me LOL!

O need to trade 2 of the 4 of my 65's for 75's...
 
atrox":3syq7cs1 said:
My Friedman cab is filled with the H75 Creambacks. I went that rout after recording and being able to hear the isolated speakers. The GB's sounded great, but the v30's sounded like bright, icky ass.

I went to the H75 and it sounds glorious. Full. No annoying upper mid thing. Just really well balanced in ever frequency.

Alright, good to hear that! So you felt the H75 to be more balanced than the Greenback speakers? I guess I could experiment with the H75 on the bottom, replacing the V30, and then take it from there.

JerEvil":3syq7cs1 said:
O need to trade 2 of the 4 of my 65's for 75's...

You have a 412 filled with M65 speakers? What makes you want to exchange two of them for M75 speakers?
 
MoosOnAir":35ra7b48 said:
atrox":35ra7b48 said:
My Friedman cab is filled with the H75 Creambacks. I went that rout after recording and being able to hear the isolated speakers. The GB's sounded great, but the v30's sounded like bright, icky ass.

I went to the H75 and it sounds glorious. Full. No annoying upper mid thing. Just really well balanced in ever frequency.

Alright, good to hear that! So you felt the H75 to be more balanced than the Greenback speakers? I guess I could experiment with the H75 on the bottom, replacing the V30, and then take it from there.

I liked the GB's just fine. I just wanted the speakers to match. For a while i had 2 GB's and 2 H75's and it was fine, but i ended up replacing the GB's anyway.

As far as tone goes, the mids of the creambacks seem to be on par with the GB's. I like to think of them as a perfect mix of GB mids added to am old vented T75. Very tight and very full sounding. Cuts through hard.
 
I believe Friedman will be offering a higher wattage Greenback in the future. There's a Demo of Greg Koch paying at the Friedman booth at NAMM. Sounded very good
 
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