Hey guys newbie to this place. I recently got me a Torpedo Live loadbox, I´ve included all of the conversation between me and "help desk". To explain my problem in the most easiest way possible!.
Do you guys have any ideas or sugesstions of what i might be doing wrong or, or have any ideas what i can do to get a sound i like out of it. If not i´m problably gonna sell it!.
thanx in advance
cheers from Sweden!
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Hey!
Daniel Otterborg from Sweden here.
I got my Torpedo Live yesterday and i must say i´m not the imprest by it, at all actually. No matter what i do it just sound, dark, moshy and all woody. Too much base, and tweaking the amp and changing channels doesn´t help either.It doesn´t matter if i tweak the amp cause it barely change the sound at all. And believe me i´ve tried every cabinet and mic and mic placement there is. Im running it trough my Marshall JVM 410 Satriani amp into the torpedo live (8ohm input on both). Into my elevenrack using it as interface/DAW. I have connected everything as shown in the pics below. Am i doing something wrong??, have i connected something wrong??. Cause right now it doesn´t sound like my amp running trough a 4*12 cabinet, at all. And last but not least, the fan in it is making really loud noices from time to time??.
Hope to hear from you asap!
Thanks!
/Daniel- Sweden
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Date: 2015-02-10 16:02:14
Name: Guillaume Pille
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Hello Daniel,
I am sorry that is how you fell after your first contact with Torpedo Live; I used to do demos with your amp and the Torpedo Live, so I know that you can get great tones out of that combination, there is no reason for the sound to be dark, at all. And you can listen to a lot of videos online with the Live and whatever amplifier
First:
- please do not involve the 11R and use the headphones output on the Live, so we limit the test to 2 products, the amp and the Live only.
- Make sure you use presets without the pow amp modeling, make sure it is switched off.
- Set the amp on a distorted sound, comparing cabinets and microphones is always more obvious with distortion from the amp (more rich sound)
- you can always compare the dry sound from the amp with the sound with the simulation, by bypassing the miking process. That can be done easily with the Remote software. If the sound is too bassy/woody even when the Live is in bypass, something strange is happening...
- If the fan is making noise, it we had some cases by the past of fans screwed too tight that can cause noise after some time, because of the blades touching their housing. Try to loosen the screws a little on the fan (at the back of the unit). If you don't want to do it yourself any technician can do this and this is covered by the warranty.
All in all, I would advice to share your experience with other Torpedo Live users on our forum, because someone else than the manufacturer can sometimes understand better what is wrong in your case. Sharing samples can help a lot, too:
www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewforum.php
Cordialement/Sincerely,
Guillaume Pille
President | Two Notes Audio Engineering
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Website: www.two-notes.com
International forum: forum.two-notes.com/
Facebook: www.facebook.com/TwoNotesAudioEngineering
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Date: 2015-02-11 22:02:25
Name: Daniel Otterborg
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Hello!
Thanks for replying,
Yeah i´v seen you´re demo with the jvm 410 amp. If have it set up the way you say with just the amp and headphones. It doesn´t change the problem at all, it doesn´t matter, cause i´ve had both the EQ and preamp modelling turned of all along. And no matter what mic or cabinet i choose, how i place the mic, It still sounds like shit, like any avarage digital "modelling sound". And not my amps sound and tones...at all!.
And if i bypass the miking process, it sounds like an attacking bi swarm, imagine a really, really shitty distortion pedal.
Date: 2015-02-17 14:20:41
Name: Guillaume Pille
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Hello Daniel,
it is hard to figure out what is going wrong exactly. The Live will replicate the sound of a miked cabinet, if you can compare what you achieve with the Live with a real miking that can help you find what's missing.
Please go on our forum and discuss the matter with other users, they may find what is you're doing that doesn't work. If you saw and like some videos using the Live, there is no trick, it's just good mixing.
Cordialement/Sincerely,
Guillaume Pille
President | Two Notes Audio Engineering
Do you guys have any ideas or sugesstions of what i might be doing wrong or, or have any ideas what i can do to get a sound i like out of it. If not i´m problably gonna sell it!.
thanx in advance
cheers from Sweden!
Message:
Hey!
Daniel Otterborg from Sweden here.
I got my Torpedo Live yesterday and i must say i´m not the imprest by it, at all actually. No matter what i do it just sound, dark, moshy and all woody. Too much base, and tweaking the amp and changing channels doesn´t help either.It doesn´t matter if i tweak the amp cause it barely change the sound at all. And believe me i´ve tried every cabinet and mic and mic placement there is. Im running it trough my Marshall JVM 410 Satriani amp into the torpedo live (8ohm input on both). Into my elevenrack using it as interface/DAW. I have connected everything as shown in the pics below. Am i doing something wrong??, have i connected something wrong??. Cause right now it doesn´t sound like my amp running trough a 4*12 cabinet, at all. And last but not least, the fan in it is making really loud noices from time to time??.
Hope to hear from you asap!
Thanks!
/Daniel- Sweden
Machine Serial number / Numéro de série machine:
Your Operating System / Votre OS:
Your Sequencer / Votre séquenceur: ---------
Software Version / Version du logiciel:
Date: 2015-02-10 16:02:14
Name: Guillaume Pille
Printer friendly version
Message:
Hello Daniel,
I am sorry that is how you fell after your first contact with Torpedo Live; I used to do demos with your amp and the Torpedo Live, so I know that you can get great tones out of that combination, there is no reason for the sound to be dark, at all. And you can listen to a lot of videos online with the Live and whatever amplifier
First:
- please do not involve the 11R and use the headphones output on the Live, so we limit the test to 2 products, the amp and the Live only.
- Make sure you use presets without the pow amp modeling, make sure it is switched off.
- Set the amp on a distorted sound, comparing cabinets and microphones is always more obvious with distortion from the amp (more rich sound)
- you can always compare the dry sound from the amp with the sound with the simulation, by bypassing the miking process. That can be done easily with the Remote software. If the sound is too bassy/woody even when the Live is in bypass, something strange is happening...
- If the fan is making noise, it we had some cases by the past of fans screwed too tight that can cause noise after some time, because of the blades touching their housing. Try to loosen the screws a little on the fan (at the back of the unit). If you don't want to do it yourself any technician can do this and this is covered by the warranty.
All in all, I would advice to share your experience with other Torpedo Live users on our forum, because someone else than the manufacturer can sometimes understand better what is wrong in your case. Sharing samples can help a lot, too:
www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewforum.php
Cordialement/Sincerely,
Guillaume Pille
President | Two Notes Audio Engineering
---------
Website: www.two-notes.com
International forum: forum.two-notes.com/
Facebook: www.facebook.com/TwoNotesAudioEngineering
Rated as not helpful
Date: 2015-02-11 22:02:25
Name: Daniel Otterborg
Printer friendly version
Message:
Hello!
Thanks for replying,
Yeah i´v seen you´re demo with the jvm 410 amp. If have it set up the way you say with just the amp and headphones. It doesn´t change the problem at all, it doesn´t matter, cause i´ve had both the EQ and preamp modelling turned of all along. And no matter what mic or cabinet i choose, how i place the mic, It still sounds like shit, like any avarage digital "modelling sound". And not my amps sound and tones...at all!.
And if i bypass the miking process, it sounds like an attacking bi swarm, imagine a really, really shitty distortion pedal.
Date: 2015-02-17 14:20:41
Name: Guillaume Pille
Printer friendly version
Message:
Hello Daniel,
it is hard to figure out what is going wrong exactly. The Live will replicate the sound of a miked cabinet, if you can compare what you achieve with the Live with a real miking that can help you find what's missing.
Please go on our forum and discuss the matter with other users, they may find what is you're doing that doesn't work. If you saw and like some videos using the Live, there is no trick, it's just good mixing.
Cordialement/Sincerely,
Guillaume Pille
President | Two Notes Audio Engineering