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PostPosted: Fri, Jan 21, 2011 12:11am 
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NEWS FROM NAMM 2011:

Torpedo PI-FREE : a free taste of the critically acclaimed Torpedo technology

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http://www.two-notes.com/pi-free

The Torpedo PI-FREE is based on our flagship model, the PI-101, but only features 1 model of power amp simulation (EL34 / AB class), 1 speaker cab (based on a Marshall 4x12) and 1 type of microphone (based on a Shure SM57). And you still have the full Post FX section.

Of course, the PI-FREE plugin features the unique Torpedo algorithm, originally found on our critically acclaimed VB-101 unit, that allows you to virtually move the microphone in front of the speaker cabinet (as you would in a real recording room) and to simulate the sound of a hard driven speaker.

The Torpedo PI-FREE is FREE, does not require iLok and is not time limited.

Key features

Power amp simulation (EL34 / AB class)

Miking section : cab based on Marshall 4x12. Microphone based on Shure SM57
Advanced algorithm based on convolution processing

Post FX section to shape your sound, including : lo-cut, 5 band EQ, Exciter and compressor

Ultra low latency processing
Customize the GUI to show only the tools you use

Available plugin formats :
Mac : AU, VST and RTAS
Win : VST and RTAS

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Got to try the VB-101 and it was infinitely better than any of the modelers I have tried. Was a great direct solution.


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Hi guys, the link above has been updated, Mac AU version now online and RTAS(PC/Mac) to follow

Please try this using a real tube front end, either a pre-amp, using a head either with an effect send to the soundcard or using the line out of your attenuator. Listen to the track when mixed with other instrument tracks and see how easy it is to mix, I think you be smiling!!!

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sysexguy wrote:
Hi guys, the link above has been updated, Mac AU version now online and RTAS(PC/Mac) to follow

Please try this using a real tube front end, either a pre-amp, using a head either with an effect send to the soundcard or using the line out of your attenuator. Listen to the track when mixed with other instrument tracks and see how easy it is to mix, I think you be smiling!!!

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I'm going to take a look at this this weekend. So if using a line out from an attenuator you'd turn the power amp off in the sim and you do that with the power amp button at the top?

Also, can you load 3rd party impulses in? If so, does your other features still work with them?


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Hi Roque, yes if you are using a line out from an attenuator, you'd disactivate the power amp section in the plug in. Third party and user IR's can be added to the PI-101 full version. The free version has just the single 4x12, one mic and one power amp available but gives a great idea of what is possible. The full version also has many bass specific cabs and microphones

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Thanks Andy.

Just focusing on the cabinet/mic aspect of your plug-in, how does it compare to convolvers available? Feature wise and tone wise? I'm using the free Kefir now.

Let me get this straight, the full version can load 3rd party IRs, and your features (like distance, center, back/front, etc) will work or do you have to have specific IRs for those features?

And how taxing is it on the CPU when using all the features?

How much is the full version? I know the hardware piece is a pretty penny, but a lot of people seem to like it.

Looking forward to trying out the free version.


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Third party and user IR's are static ie the microphone placement can only be moved when the Two Notes cabinets (32 and counting) are used.

Full version PI-101 is $279.95/ 199Euroexvat available Feb 2011

The free version is available so you can compare the sonics and functionality for yourself. As far as CPU demands, the PI is designed for best sound and lowest latency vs. assuring the maximum user base can integrate the PI in their workflow.

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Wow, pretty nice. Do you have any examples of other speakers/mics to listen to?


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Check out the tracks here: http://soundcloud.com/two-notes/sets , scroll down a bit to Gundy Keller's files who's a German studio player and Roland clinician. The PI-101 full version has the same speakers and microphones as the rackmount VB-101.

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Warm greetings.

Two Files from me with Torpedo Pi-Free without postprocessing, Equing, etc.

Marshall Plexi 1987 with DOD YJM-308, Marshall SE-100 as Load Box with uncompens. Line-Out (Lead-Guitar with Panning-Delay, R.gits rough and pur)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ZCVcABMiA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Soldano X-99 without any effects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvxJr3H30I&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


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Both of those sound bad ass. I just don't understand why people would drop $2k on an Axe Fx and not get the Torpedo instead. Very nice work my friend.


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Two Notes Torpedo PI-FREE v1.0.4 available !!!

What's new? Some bug corrections and a huge improvement in CPU usage.
We highly recommend our existing users to download and try the new version.
Visit www.two-notes.com/pi-free to get your free download

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Warm greetings.

Two Files from me with Torpedo Pi-Free without postprocessing, Equing, etc.

Marshall Plexi 1987 with DOD YJM-308, Marshall SE-100 as Load Box with uncompens. Line-Out (Lead-Guitar with Panning-Delay, R.gits rough and pur)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ZCVcABMiA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Soldano X-99 without any effects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvxJr3H30I&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


Whoa! Nice! I need to listen to these on my home computer. They sound killer on my lap top here at work.


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Both of those sound bad ass. I just don't understand why people would drop $2k on an Axe Fx and not get the Torpedo instead. Very nice work my friend.


The Torpedo has amp emulations and effects? I thought the torpedo was basically a direct box/cab emulator.

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stratotone wrote:
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Both of those sound bad ass. I just don't understand why people would drop $2k on an Axe Fx and not get the Torpedo instead. Very nice work my friend.


The Torpedo has amp emulations and effects? I thought the torpedo was basically a direct box/cab emulator.

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No it does not. But this slays the Axe Fx.


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Shark Diver wrote:
stratotone wrote:
Shark Diver wrote:
Both of those sound bad ass. I just don't understand why people would drop $2k on an Axe Fx and not get the Torpedo instead. Very nice work my friend.


The Torpedo has amp emulations and effects? I thought the torpedo was basically a direct box/cab emulator.

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No it does not. But this slays the Axe Fx.


Then the comparison is a little flawed, right?

"I don't see why you would drop $2k on a Les Paul and not buy a set of Motor City pickups instead."

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very cool!! will definitely be checking this out as soon as I see the RTAS download.

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stratotone wrote:
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stratotone wrote:
Shark Diver wrote:
Both of those sound bad ass. I just don't understand why people would drop $2k on an Axe Fx and not get the Torpedo instead. Very nice work my friend.


The Torpedo has amp emulations and effects? I thought the torpedo was basically a direct box/cab emulator.

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No it does not. But this slays the Axe Fx.


Then the comparison is a little flawed, right?

"I don't see why you would drop $2k on a Les Paul and not buy a set of Motor City pickups instead."


Not really. If you are using the Axe as a direct recording device, which I was referring to, then to me, this sounds infinitely better. This is a free software. I didn't state it, but I was also referring to the 2 hardware units - which are in the same $ ballpark.

A set of pups and a guitar are not the same obviously. A direct recording media and device are. ;)


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All it needs is a limited time special introductory price for the full version.

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Hi there,

I will produce some videos for Two Notes with the full version in the next 10 days.

I will use dif. seetings, amps, guitars, stompboxes, etc.

Kind Regards

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Hi there,

I will produce some videos for Two Notes with the full version in the next 10 days.

I will use dif. seetings, amps, guitars, stompboxes, etc.

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Any videos or sound clips with different speakers?


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Shark Diver wrote:
Both of those sound bad ass. I just don't understand why people would drop $2k on an Axe Fx and not get the Torpedo instead. Very nice work my friend.



My sentiments exactly. Most who buy the axe add it to or replace a stable full of tube amps.

I say keep your amps as they still currently sound better than the axe. I tried the torpedo at last years ny amp show, it kicks all kind of ass but it better at that price tag.

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The speaker/mic combos in the full version PI-101 are the same as the hardware VB-101 so any of those demos would apply.

http://soundcloud.com/two-notes/sets scroll down to Gundy Keller's files for the widest variety of tones and playing styles, Tristan Klein also has some chops as does our man Kenny.

I like the youtube where Tristan records at 2 am (1:38am to be precise) (in French but you can get the idea)



scroll to 8:17 for performance

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Dear all, the PI-101is available (only the download version) from our website, with a 15-days trial. Let me help you if you have any question regarding the Two Notes products. ;)

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I tried the torpedo at last years ny amp show, it kicks all kind of ass but it better at that price tag.


Just a FYI : we will be at the next NY Amp Show, and the price tag of the hardware units has been changed to match the US market.

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By the way the PI-101 and PI-FREE are now in RTAS Format and recently updated, you may want to take a look at it. ;)

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I tried the torpedo at last years ny amp show, it kicks all kind of ass but it better at that price tag.


Just a FYI : we will be at the next NY Amp Show, and the price tag of the hardware units has been changed to match the US market.

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By the way the PI-101 and PI-FREE are now in RTAS Format and recently updated, you may want to take a look at it. ;)



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VB-101 and VM-202 are now $1995 ea. USA and Canada

PI-101 is $289.95 and the boxed version includes an iLokII worth $50

and PI-FREE is still free :D

Most importantly, the plug in versions now run with Pro Tools under RTAS and the latest VB-101 firmware features a complete rewrite of the load compensation function. We've been getting raves from everyone who's heard the new version.

We'll also be giving away a free PI-101 (full version with ilokII) as part of the NY Amp Show's door prize package, If you're attending, make sure you get your name in the hat :rock:

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Will give the free version a try with my Black Tiger Pre . . .

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Dear all,
I was asked for some help on tweaking the Torpedo PI-FREE and the PI-101.

First, even if it may sound boring, take a look at the user manual (one for both versions) so you will find some explanations on the various parameters you can access with the plugins :

http://www.two-notes.com/downloads/EN_MANUAL_torpedo_PI101.pdf

Make sure you always have the last, up-to-date version of the plugin and the manual.

First, there are two possibilities with the PI-FREE/101 plugins : using it with a preamp or using it with an amp with a load box

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Please take attention on the fact that the some guitar/bass preamplifiers doesn't have a real line out (in terms of level and/or impedance). especially when you use the the FX loop of your amp, you may find the sound to be compressed and noisy, this may come from the design of the FX loop.

Let's talk about the first option, using the plugins with a preamplifier.

1- Setup and monitor the gain and volume in every stage of your DAW to make sure the only saturation/distortion is coming either from your preamp or the distortion stages of the plugin, not from digital saturation.
2- On the input stage of the plugins, the best would be to stay around 0dB
3- The power amp section :

This section is not part of the Torpedo technology witch is used for the speaker and miking simulation. The power amp is based on component/circuit modelisation : we give the user 4 types of tubes and 2 topologies (Single Ended or Push-Pull) based on the state-of-the-art tube amp design. For some explanations, please go to this Randall Aiken page witch is a good summary of the two options : http://www.aikenamps.com/SingleEnded.htm

- The volume has to be seen as the master volume of your amp : the more you push it the more you will get distortion and sag, as well as tonal modification (more bass mainly, depending on the tube models).
- Put Depth and Presence at 100% and use those parameters as filtering. Presence has an effect on the counter-reaction of the modelised amp, Depth is basic filtering. Please remember that having a lot of low frequencies in a guitar sound makes it hard to mix with other instruments (bass and drums mainly).
- The pentode mode will give you more distortion and bite than Triode mode (depending on the tube model)

We designed this part to be more important in the overall tone than most of the power amps you may find on the market. This is a deliberate choice, we hope you will like it. ;)

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Thank you very much, Guillaume.

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Thank you very much, Guillaume.
+1... Yes thank you.

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I'm glad you like it guys. ;) I just remembered that a customer created a webpage where he describes his basic guitar recording setup :

http://www.chokhmah.com/guitar_recording_process/

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I'm glad you like it guys. ;) I just remembered that a customer created a webpage where he describes his basic guitar recording setup :

http://www.chokhmah.com/guitar_recording_process/

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I look forward to giving this a try again. I had it downloaded right after it came out, but then fiddle-fucked my computer and reformatted. FYI, Two Notes is very responsive for their customer service. Impressive, and if I dig the free version I won't hesitate to buy the full.

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Two Notes is very responsive for their customer service. Impressive, and if I dig the free version I won't hesitate to buy the full.


Thanks for the nice comment, we try to help our users as fast as we can. ;)

Right now there is a poll on the forum to decide if Two Notes deserves a special subforum, feel free to vote (YES !) here, so Rig Talk will become our official English speaking forum ;) :

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=96891&p=1144939#p1144939

Last thing, one of our endorsed artist made a nice video showing how versatile a single amp can be, using the PI-101 and a Mesa Rectifier :


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