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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 2:18pm 
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It does no good on a gear forum.

Proven time and time again to be toxic.

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Agreed. Never seen political discussion allowed on a forum that wasn't a political forum.

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Maybe we could even start with the outright racist dude that was posting in OT the other day...

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I agree it is the worst part of this forum. Or at least make a sub forum for it that does not pop up everywhere you look.

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Maybe we could even start with the outright racist dude that was posting in OT the other day...

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Ban political talk? -

Nah, because people who involve themselves in that from a derogatory morally superior hyperpartisan point of view usually end up getting so butthurt by the blowback they get usually end up banning themselves anyway.

and nobody is forcing anybody to click on political threads.


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I have no political affiliations, but starting a political thread on a guitar forum is sort of like talking about guitars & amps on a political forum, isn't it? I mean, what's the end result?

Oh, right, we all just saw that play out to it's logical conclusion. There are just better places/forums to do that than on a guitar/amp gear forum.

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Yup. They get ugly. REALLY FAST. People start getting defensive in their own beliefs (rightfully so)...
Then the personal attacks begin. Seen it time after time after time.
I don't like politics. Or talking bout religion.
I don't make or take away these sub forums.
But you can damn near bet nothing good comes from these threads.

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It's an "Off Topic" section. That means anything not music related. If politics are banned in the OT section, what would happen if Marshall posts were banned in other sections? (Although I personally have no love for Marshall products I do not object to the discussion of said products!) Instead of banning politics, how about just not reading the posts or responding to them? Especially responding to troll posts! They should go away quickly.

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Yup. Firm believer in freedom of speach.
If it's in a off main road section.
Go ahead and discuss. :thumbsup:
But discuss usually ends in 'disgust'
People bitched about me not 'taking care of this!!'
But I really do like to read the posts. Watch it as it unfolds.
Sorry folks. I am still just a member here like you guys and have my opinions.
Mod or not. Just a normal guy. Not everyone thinks the same. My opinions thoughts are going to be different the the next joe shit the rag man. :yes:

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From a freedom of speech standpoint, I know why it's important. From a personal standpoint, its annoying AF. Go to another forum. I'm here to talk about how much money I'm gonna waste on not becoming a better guitar player :lol: :LOL:

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o.t. is o.t.-what's the problem? if we modded the fuck out of this place people would bitch. if someone is a dick 99% of the time-YOU guys handle it yourselves.


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I don't care if you want to talk about lighting candles out of Mickey Mouses ass at Disney world.
I am sure people will reply.
But if you "think"... have a "instinct" ... or just a 'hint" ....
you wanna respond.... go for it. Its your belief and freedom of speech! :thumbsup:
When you stir up a bees hive.... and the bees come out ...
might be too late to say "Stop.... I was messing around..."
Time to stand ground and back it up.
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Here ye here ye! Ban posts that promote banning threads!

...crap I may have inadvertently just banned myself

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Here ye here ye! Ban posts that promote banning threads!

...crap I may have inadvertently just banned myself

Not banned..... but being monitored heavily.
VERY HEAVILY... :gethim:

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Mailman1971 wrote:
crankyrayhanky wrote:
Here ye here ye! Ban posts that promote banning threads!

...crap I may have inadvertently just banned myself

Not banned..... but being sedated heavily.
VERY HEAVILY... :gethim:


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crankyrayhanky wrote:
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crankyrayhanky wrote:
Here ye here ye! Ban posts that promote banning threads!

...crap I may have inadvertently just banned myself

Not banned..... but being sedated heavily.
VERY HEAVILY... :gethim:


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I'm not a fan of banning things in general. It's already in off topic. If someone gets nasty, then it's on them and the moderators to handle it. An easy solution is to just stay out of those conversations if it bothers you too much. I do. I might read through some from time to time, but I'm fully aware that no one, no matter what side they're on, is ever going to change someone's mind about a political stance on a forum.


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changed my mind, ban it. no good comes from it on here......to many ignorant asshats on both sides.


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changed my mind, ban it. no good comes from it on here......to many ignorant asshats on both sides.


:lol: :LOL: :yes: :thumbsup:

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Ban! Also keep offtopic out of the main board. Just keep it hidden!

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It is banned on most forums.... Same with religion.

Why anyone would care about talking about this crap is beyond me ? Other than they enjoy being offended or like arguments about things they have zero control over.

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people take someone else's opinion as a personal attack. i'm guilty of it. it always degenerates. always. you can take the most rabid two, fighting on here-set them down face to face, and I guarantee they would be laughing, joking, drinking and have a blast. get behind a keyboard and it's ww3. maybe i'm wrong....not my decision to make.


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Just ban the dudes that constantly post political stuff...some of these guys don't post anything other than political stuff actually, or even contribute to other people's non political posts... just saying..


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Thing is politics and religion are a huge part of everyday life.
Effects some more then others. I see it as a place to vent rather then kicking the wife and fucking the dog. :lol: :LOL:
It does get out of hand. Even me and my best friend who is my drummer. Known him 40 years.
We get pretty heated talking bout this shit face to face.
Always swear not to talk about it. But again.... it part of life and it gets personal.
Can't stop it.
Yeah we can smash the ban hammer. But it's never going to stop.

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Steve you PROMISED to never EVER show that pic of me!! :gethim:

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Political talk wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't as immature as it is on this forum. Literally always just degenerates into people screaming at each other here.

Eventually someone posts some hawt gurlz though so it all balances out.

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I love it.

I always learn something, and it's great to be able to go to a gear forum with a bit o' action on the side. Some audio forums have become so damned sterile it kills me.

As some have said - it's labelled OffTopic Central, and nobody's forced to go there.

One thing 'though, I completely understand that some would prefer "view active topics" or whatever to not show updates from OTC. I wonder if the board software allows a user-designated filter as to which subforms show up there to be set. Not likely, I know...

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I love it.

One thing 'though, I completely understand that some would prefer "view active topics" or whatever to not show updates from OTC. I wonder if the board software allows a user-designated filter as to which subforms show up there to be set. Not likely, I know...


Of course it's possible, probably a simple fix too, but it may require some coding which is probably beyond the technical abilities of our mods (no offense, unless one of you is a programmer, in which case get on it!).

I don't even talk religion/politics with my friends, last place I wanna do/read it is on a god damned guitar forum

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I love it.

One thing 'though, I completely understand that some would prefer "view active topics" or whatever to not show updates from OTC. I wonder if the board software allows a user-designated filter as to which subforms show up there to be set. Not likely, I know...


Of course it's possible, probably a simple fix too, but it may require some coding which is probably beyond the technical abilities of our mods (no offense, unless one of you is a programmer, in which case get on it!).

I don't even talk religion/politics with my friends, last place I wanna do/read it is on a god damned guitar forum



we are very limited on what we can do. nothing like that at all. i'm a prison guard, not a programmer...


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I love it.

One thing 'though, I completely understand that some would prefer "view active topics" or whatever to not show updates from OTC. I wonder if the board software allows a user-designated filter as to which subforms show up there to be set. Not likely, I know...


Of course it's possible, probably a simple fix too, but it may require some coding which is probably beyond the technical abilities of our mods (no offense, unless one of you is a programmer, in which case get on it!).

I don't even talk religion/politics with my friends, last place I wanna do/read it is on a god damned guitar forum



we are very limited on what we can do. nothing like that at all. i'm a prison guard, not a programmer...


I guess you can apply some of the prison guard kung fu then so that people don't spark these discussions... it's like a riot, right? :lol: :LOL: where at the end, someone simply wanted to fuck someone else in the ass instead of having a good conversation...

the problem with these political topics is that they never ever wish to get other people's opinions, they are simply there to talk about themselves and how they feel, so if 20 people who want to express how they feel join a post like that, it's a fucking avalanche


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the problem with these political topics is that they never ever wish to get other people's opinions, they are simply there to talk about themselves and how they feel, so if 20 people who want to express how they feel join a post like that, it's a fucking avalanche


That actually seems to be a problem with most threads here ha!

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Isn't there an EULA specification that the PHPBB software can't be tampered with, meaning that the exclusion of the OT forum from notifications can't be programmed into it and only implemented if it's an existing option?

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I love it.

One thing 'though, I completely understand that some would prefer "view active topics" or whatever to not show updates from OTC. I wonder if the board software allows a user-designated filter as to which subforms show up there to be set. Not likely, I know...


Of course it's possible, probably a simple fix too, but it may require some coding which is probably beyond the technical abilities of our mods (no offense, unless one of you is a programmer, in which case get on it!).

I don't even talk religion/politics with my friends, last place I wanna do/read it is on a god damned guitar forum



we are very limited on what we can do. nothing like that at all. i'm a prison guard, not a programmer...


I guess you can apply some of the prison guard kung fu then so that people don't spark these discussions... it's like a riot, right? :lol: :LOL: where at the end, someone simply wanted to fuck someone else in the ass instead of having a good conversation...

the problem with these political topics is that they never ever wish to get other people's opinions, they are simply there to talk about themselves and how they feel, so if 20 people who want to express how they feel join a post like that, it's a fucking avalanche



would be kinda funny if I went through and deleted everything....... :codeak:


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Be fine with me. Just delete all of OT.

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 07, 2017 2:29am 
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My thoughts:

This is one of the few gear forums out there that allows it (I allow it on mine as well).

...and for that, I applaud.

Those looking for a ban:

I see this crap on every forum practically.

Here's the thing about free speech - you don't have to listen to it.

Especially when it's contained (Off Topic).

Nobody's holding a gun to your head; forcing you to read it. Stop pretending this is the case.

Adults should physically and mentally be able to read what they want to... and ignore what they don't want to read...
instead of relying on some authority to do it for them, or to censor that which they don't care for.

This is the very essence of free speech (and subsequently, freedom).

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 07, 2017 3:30am 
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I'm so with you, brother.

This is what makes Rig Talk even-more special, and almost-unique in the audio-gear-forum world.

There's a sense of freedom I feel on no other audio forum, and I've been on plenty since the early naughties.

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PostPosted: Sat, Mar 04, 2017 8:10pm 
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No point having political posts. They'll go no where and never be resolved.


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PostPosted: Fri, Mar 10, 2017 7:31pm 
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I agree...this is no place for politics...


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PostPosted: Fri, Mar 10, 2017 7:32pm 
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lll wrote:
My thoughts:

This is one of the few gear forums out there that allows it (I allow it on mine as well).

...and for that, I applaud.

Those looking for a ban:

I see this crap on every forum practically.

Here's the thing about free speech - you don't have to listen to it.

Especially when it's contained (Off Topic).

Nobody's holding a gun to your head; forcing you to read it. Stop pretending this is the case.

Adults should physically and mentally be able to read what they want to... and ignore what they don't want to read...
instead of relying on some authority to do it for them, or to censor that which they don't care for.

This is the very essence of free speech (and subsequently, freedom).

Youre assuming that we are adults here...lol


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Thank you for your No politics/No religion BAN. It's wise decision. The bad mood in these topics and rude behavior of some members were slowly seeping into gear related posts. This is the way to keep this forum alive and not losing any more members.

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I know it's a tough call. There are pros and cons for sure. Like so many things in life, a few people screw it up for everyone else.

There was a time on RT when we actually had good political discourse. People would discuss issues and challenge others' positions, and it was mostly respectful. Last year seemed to bring the worst out in everyone, and a few name callers really lowered the OT forum.

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Are people still crying about this ban...it's a guitar forum..geeze


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