They revoiced these limited amps to be just like Eds touring amps.
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cardinal":14w38xco said:I love how you have to buy a limited edition version of his signature amp to get the amp that he actually uses. Sounds like the standard production will continue to be an amp that its endorser thinks lacks gain and definition in the mids.
cardinal":3p9jtsoq said:I love how you have to buy a limited edition version of his signature amp to get the amp that he actually uses. Sounds like the standard production will continue to be an amp that its endorser thinks lacks gain and definition in the mids.
H Golf Sport":3p9jtsoq said:Good marketing. Now you have to buy a new one.
The original used to be the exact amps he played thru on the record and tour.
Every few years a new tweak to keep sales up.
The guy who put an LP pickup into a strat body he took a wood chisel to so he could fit it, inventing an entirely new subsection of guitars?geetarmikey":1mj6lmig said:It's funny how artists will say "this is the ultimate piece of gear for me" blah blah blah, then you find out they either don't use it, or use a modded version of it, after all the R+D that's gone into the product to get it spot-on for them.
Guess EVH will always be fiddling around with his gear though!
Sounds like the standard production will continue to be an amp that its endorser thinks lacks gain and definition in the mids.
At least this limited edition is more than just a painted grill.
supersonic":2y5fb4jt said:Yes this is how I would describe the difference. But the 5153 has a mushiness that can't be dialed out. The XTC is far superior IMO, but they are in a different league price wise. So I guess you get what you pay for.glassjaw7":2y5fb4jt said:I definitely hear some Bogner ecstasy vibe in the EVH, only it's more focused in the upper mids and not as creamy. Sooooooper high gain too! Can't believe they are adding more gain to the Red channel!?
the4thlast1":2fv5poge said:I dont think Eddie changing things on the amp is cause for bashing. I think when the amp was designed he was happy with it and overtime he got used to the amp and using it live. Then the little tweaks that you may want become more apparent as time goes on. I would assume they are going to come out with a standard model like this... Maybe a 5154 eventually.
I guess it comes down to personal taste, I actually owned a 5153 100w version and XTC 100B at the same time. I found the 5153 to be great at low volume but it just grated my ears at band volumes. I did a lot of A/Bing recording them at home, the XTC is a much sweeter and chewier tone, the XTC oozes class, I can listen to it all day without getting fatigued. The 5153 will fatigue my ears in five minutes. Agreed that the 5153 suits heavier music better, and that they are both a similar flovor but for me, my style and my ears it's the XTC by a longshot.glassjaw7":3tp57faj said:supersonic":3tp57faj said:Yes this is how I would describe the difference. But the 5153 has a mushiness that can't be dialed out. The XTC is far superior IMO, but they are in a different league price wise. So I guess you get what you pay for.glassjaw7":3tp57faj said:I definitely hear some Bogner ecstasy vibe in the EVH, only it's more focused in the upper mids and not as creamy. Sooooooper high gain too! Can't believe they are adding more gain to the Red channel!?
I also like the Ecstasy more overall (especially the early model I played). Actually a huge fan of the amp, but if I was strictly a modern hard rock or metal guy, I'd take the EVH all day long. IMO, the Ecstasy is a quirky amp. It has some purely amazing tones in it, but there are definitely drawbacks. I don't think one is far superior to the other, and I only heard the mushiness you speak of when the gain was WAY up on the Red channel, and that's not a problem for me since I never ran it over noon anyway.
the4thlast1":1e9q11w7 said:I dont think Eddie changing things on the amp is cause for bashing. I think when the amp was designed he was happy with it and overtime he got used to the amp and using it live. Then the little tweaks that you may want become more apparent as time goes on. I would assume they are going to come out with a standard model like this... Maybe a 5154 eventually.
I think Ed has done pretty well with sig amps, regardless of what he's currently using. He's used all of them at one point or another, and every version he's come out with so far is revered in it's own right. Anything new doesn't really seem to diminish what previous amps can do/have done. There are guys that prefer each version from what I've seen, and something new likely won't change that. It's highly doubtful that this will be the last amp he uses, but that doesn't mean it won't sound great too.cardinal":3ouppv13 said:It's not the tweaking that I think deserves bashing. It's the potential that thy continuing selling an amp (outside of this limited edition) that is no longer the amp that EVH actually uses. Of course you could fill a large thread by listing the "signature" gear that is never actually used by the endorser. But I never like to see that.