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PostPosted: Sat, Jul 04, 2009 11:48am 
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Oops, I read through the entire post and found everything. I might be ordering the CD, I checked that SoundClick page and couldn't hear a difference through computer speakers. :(

I have a black LP with a Timbrewolf. This is my darker, heavier sounding LP, not as 3-D sounding as my burst. I was told by others it sounds perfect in this LP although you have me intereted in the Cold Sweat.

My burst LP has had everything in it......and I think the Rio BBQ and Godwood sounded best. The Torque also really good in this one. Right now I have a Guitar Force custom made Rebel-Fire and it is nice but I may go back to the GW. This LP is brighter and 3-D. The GW is darker to my ears.

My PRS CE-22 has stock Dragons and can be harsh....hmmmmmmm....but needs to split well and work with the 5 way rotary unless I ditch it. Any thoughts? Was told the Afwayu will be good here.

I have a 1989 SG with stock Bill Lawrence pickups at the time. They are really nice but sometimes seem less than clear/articulate. Maybe 2nd degree BBs here. This guitar sounds big!

Fat strat on the way. :)


A Suhr Aldrich might be nice in the PRS. Not harsh at all and very open for being such a hot pickup, it's 4-conductor also....so it should work with a standard 5-way rotary. Make sure the rotary switch is not the kind with a circuit board that is set up for a 3-wire split...some are and it may be an issue.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jul 04, 2009 12:30pm 
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here is my clip of the motorcity 2nd degree blackbelt and my plexi..
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PostPosted: Sat, Jul 04, 2009 1:29pm 
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Yes, it uses the three wire split. Can't you just wire the two wires for splitting to the one lug?

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richedie wrote:
Oops, I read through the entire post and found everything. I might be ordering the CD, I checked that SoundClick page and couldn't hear a difference through computer speakers. :(

I have a black LP with a Timbrewolf. This is my darker, heavier sounding LP, not as 3-D sounding as my burst. I was told by others it sounds perfect in this LP although you have me intereted in the Cold Sweat.

My burst LP has had everything in it......and I think the Rio BBQ and Godwood sounded best. The Torque also really good in this one. Right now I have a Guitar Force custom made Rebel-Fire and it is nice but I may go back to the GW. This LP is brighter and 3-D. The GW is darker to my ears.

My PRS CE-22 has stock Dragons and can be harsh....hmmmmmmm....but needs to split well and work with the 5 way rotary unless I ditch it. Any thoughts? Was told the Afwayu will be good here.

I have a 1989 SG with stock Bill Lawrence pickups at the time. They are really nice but sometimes seem less than clear/articulate. Maybe 2nd degree BBs here. This guitar sounds big!

Fat strat on the way. :)


A Suhr Aldrich might be nice in the PRS. Not harsh at all and very open for being such a hot pickup, it's 4-conductor also....so it should work with a standard 5-way rotary. Make sure the rotary switch is not the kind with a circuit board that is set up for a 3-wire split...some are and it may be an issue.


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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 05, 2009 7:32am 
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How is the C-5? I hear because it is rather scooped, it can lack mids and sound thin.....no fat lead tones....any thoughts?

James, can you give a quick run down on the difference between the Gibson 498T, Wolfetone Timbre Wolf, and BK Cold Sweat? Thanks man!

By the way....anyonw wanting a Godwood type pickup for less money? Ask Wade at Motor City pikcups for a Detroiter or Kevin at Guitar Force for a Rebel Fire.


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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 05, 2009 11:31am 
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Depending on the pickup maker, it can split the wrong side of the coil if you wire the 2 splits together into the one lug on the circuit board. Not always a problem, but it can be. I've run into a situation where then you can re-wire it to split the correct side and then it's out-of-phase with the neck pickup.

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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 05, 2009 12:57pm 
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richedie wrote:

James, can you give a quick run down on the difference between the Gibson 498T, Wolfetone Timbre Wolf, and BK Cold Sweat? Thanks man!



All really good. I went with a Cold Sweat for my Goldtop, it off set the brightness of the guitar. The Cold Sweat is a badass pup for heavy rock and leads, I love it!

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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 05, 2009 9:33pm 
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Thanks man! You know, I think the Godwood is one of the best humbuckers, period. I used that one in my burst for hard rock and modern heavy rock no problem! Really versatile. Heck there is a metal dude who uses the Icebucker for his main guitars and that is a tweaked Godwood. The newer Godwoods are close to the Icebucker. It CAN do it all. :)

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richedie wrote:

James, can you give a quick run down on the difference between the Gibson 498T, Wolfetone Timbre Wolf, and BK Cold Sweat? Thanks man!



All really good. I went with a Cold Sweat for my Goldtop, it off set the brightness of the guitar. The Cold Sweat is a badass pup for heavy rock and leads, I love it!


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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 05, 2009 9:39pm 
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I love the Godwood in my PRS...what delineates a new Godwood (that you say is close to the Icebucker)?

richedie wrote:
Thanks man! You know, I think the Godwood is one of the best humbuckers, period. I used that one in my burst for hard rock and modern heavy rock no problem! Really versatile. Heck there is a metal dude who uses the Icebucker for his main guitars and that is a tweaked Godwood. The newer Godwoods are close to the Icebucker. It CAN do it all. :)

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richedie wrote:

James, can you give a quick run down on the difference between the Gibson 498T, Wolfetone Timbre Wolf, and BK Cold Sweat? Thanks man!



All really good. I went with a Cold Sweat for my Goldtop, it off set the brightness of the guitar. The Cold Sweat is a badass pup for heavy rock and leads, I love it!

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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 05, 2009 9:54pm 
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richedie wrote:
Heck there is a metal dude who uses the Icebucker for his main guitars...

You're speaking about JS, right?

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PostPosted: Sun, Jul 05, 2009 10:55pm 
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I love the Godwood in my PRS...what delineates a new Godwood (that you say is close to the Icebucker)?



The older ones were called Goodwoods. Jim tweaked them and made them a little hotter, then renamed them Godwoods.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jul 06, 2009 12:31pm 
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Right on guys. With the Godwood in a Les Paul, it can do anything, very versatile indeed.


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PostPosted: Wed, Jul 15, 2009 5:48pm 
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I will get flamed for saying this but one of my favorite humbucker sets for a Gibson is the Bill Lawrence circuit board pickups "the original" made for Gibsons in 88 and 89! Love those!


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PostPosted: Wed, Jul 15, 2009 9:37pm 
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I've got the 2nd degree blackbelt from this shootout in my Les Paul, and all I can say is WOW!!!


After trying out dozens of pickups throughout the years, I think my search is finally over. It's clear, balanced, percussive and very 3D sounding

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PostPosted: Wed, Jul 15, 2009 10:02pm 
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AmpliFIRE wrote:
I've got the 2nd degree blackbelt from this shootout in my Les Paul, and all I can say is WOW!!!


After trying out dozens of pickups throughout the years, I think my search is finally over. It's clear, balanced, percussive and very 3D sounding

:rock:


What's the output on that pickup????? Nice when you find the tone. I ended my search in Gibsons with the Bill Lawrence circuit board pickups, love em to death, clean to heavy.


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PostPosted: Wed, Jul 15, 2009 10:08pm 
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:rock: I have been away from here from a wile, and I just found this. Thanks so much for doing this. I have been a big fan of the WCR Ironman for a couple of years now. I was actually the first one to buy the bridge with the matching neck!! I am thinking about putting that pup in my Gutierrez, and finding something else for my Ibanez. This will help a lot with that process!!!!

If you ever do an amp shoot out PM me, I have a 20 watt Peters that is killer!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 1:11am 
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:rock: I have been away from here from a wile, and I just found this. Thanks so much for doing this. I have been a big fan of the WCR Ironman for a couple of years now. I was actually the first one to buy the bridge with the matching neck!! I am thinking about putting that pup in my Gutierrez, and finding something else for my Ibanez. This will help a lot with that process!!!!

If you ever do an amp shoot out PM me, I have a 20 watt Peters that is killer!!!!

Ryan


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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 6:34am 
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:doh: I am a bit late.

Thanks for the link

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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 12:40pm 
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I like your avatar.

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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 1:59pm 
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Thanks, I love the funny pics. I have a few hundred of them on my computer such as...

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I have been on that motifake.com page all day!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri, Oct 09, 2009 3:32pm 
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i'm liking the WCR iron man, really thick.


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PostPosted: Tue, Nov 24, 2009 7:51pm 
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I am totally stuck between the Second Degree Black Belt and the Godwood..... Price difference is like $100 for a single.


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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 25, 2014 2:11pm 
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Once you understand what the differences in pickup sound really stem from, and can locate manufacturers that really know how to utilize the factors which shape that sound, you will begin to understand why there is no need to spend a lot of money on pickups. There are ~$50 pickups that perform better in every respect than those costing several times that. The same thing is true for cables, and even solid body guitars. The sound going into the first preamp stage is a result of all the combined factors before it.


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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 25, 2014 6:32pm 
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I'll bite...what are these ~$50 pickups?

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 25, 2014 6:46pm 
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Off the top of my head, I'd say Wilde and DiMarzio. Wilde are the late Bill Lawrence's designs, who designed pickups and a guitar for Framus back in the early 50's. He was also Larry DiMarzio's pickup mentor back in the early 70's, and chief engineer at Gibson Guitars, Nashville for over a decade. There is no reason to believe any of the very expensive pickups on the market are necessarily any better than something from Artech, GFS, or any of the many other inexpensive independent offerings out there -- no logical reason whatsoever. I can elaborate specifically on almost every aspect of why, but you need to understand some physical principles about how pickups and passive circuitry work, and be willing to disregard previously conceived false notions.


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I am in. When is this shootout.

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I am in. When is this shootout.

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