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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 12, 2008 11:44pm 
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I was listening to final Countdown CD and fuck me... amazing melodic shred. amazing tone.I know he uses 2205 but curious as to what he used then?


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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 13, 2008 3:36am 
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According to himself, Strats with DiMarzio HS-2 pickups AFAIK. (Read it in an interview in a Swedish mag, "FUZZ")


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Im am pretty much certain back then he used superlead's/superbasses with two tubescreamers in series boosting the amp. And old Marshall cabs too! That album has a lot of 'studio magic' happening too though... his tone is quite processed on some tracks but not so much others.

Around that sorta time and closer to the time of 'Total Control' he also used a Hiwatt with a DS-1 infront, and a Jose modded Marshall live

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Im am pretty much certain back then he used superlead's/superbasses with two tubescreamers in series boosting the amp. And old Marshall cabs too! That album has a lot of 'studio magic' happening too though... his tone is quite processed on some tracks but not so much others.

Around that sorta time and closer to the time of 'Total Control' he also used a Hiwatt with a DS-1 infront, and a Jose modded Marshall live


Can someone please explain to me what is a Jose modded amp? and how do we know it's a dead man's mod? just curious thats all..I know who the guy was, did work on EVH's amps, not gain mods though ...so where does this Jose hi-gain stuff come from ?

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Can someone please explain to me what is a Jose modded amp? and how do we know it's a dead man's mod? just curious thats all..I know who the guy was, did work on EVH's amps, not gain mods though ...so where does this Jose hi-gain stuff come from ?

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Hey Ant,

Jose did loads of gain mods and various other mods for many players amps. I know everyone knows about EVHs amps being worked on by Jose, but Jose did a lot more than just that... His gain mods are in tons of guys amps such as John Norum's, Sykes's, Joe Holmes, Doug Aldrich played one in the early days and many more. I heard that some of them were really high gain tone, and others were more of a plexi EVH vibe.

Mark Cameron is the guy who can tell you all the info on Jose and his work, as i remember reading that the shop Mark worked for bought out Jose's shop when he passed away.

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Im am pretty much certain back then he used superlead's/superbasses with two tubescreamers in series boosting the amp.


Definitely studio magic. Wold love to know for sure if it was SLP. I know those pickups are very low output.


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Im am pretty much certain back then he used superlead's/superbasses with two tubescreamers in series boosting the amp.


Definitely studio magic. Wold love to know for sure if it was SLP. I know those pickups are very low output.


I remember him saying he used HS-3's and also a FS-1 too.

It was probably an SLP, but the cabs he used also wouldve made the tone very different too. Those old original Greenbacks and H30's sounded great, and added a sort of growly sound to the low end.

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MrDan666 wrote:
70strathead wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what is a Jose modded amp? and how do we know it's a dead man's mod? just curious thats all..I know who the guy was, did work on EVH's amps, not gain mods though ...so where does this Jose hi-gain stuff come from ?

thanks Dan
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Hey Ant,

Jose did loads of gain mods and various other mods for many players amps. I know everyone knows about EVHs amps being worked on by Jose, but Jose did a lot more than just that... His gain mods are in tons of guys amps such as John Norum's, Sykes's, Joe Holmes, Doug Aldrich played one in the early days and many more. I heard that some of them were really high gain tone, and others were more of a plexi EVH vibe.

Mark Cameron is the guy who can tell you all the info on Jose and his work, as i remember reading that the shop Mark worked for bought out Jose's shop when he passed away.

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Yeah Mark talked my ear off about this, i remember now. As matter of fact when Mark working out of a shop in san Diego way back when, there was a buzz going around that he had some of Jose's schematics...I liked Norums tone on that solo record he did with "Shimmmering Highs" ...ripping stuff! :thumbsup:

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Yeah Mark talked my ear off about this, i remember now. As matter of fact when Mark working out of a shop in san Diego way back when, there was a buzz going around that he had some of Jose's schematics...I liked Norums tone on that solo record he did with "Shimmmering Highs" ...ripping stuff! :thumbsup:


That album was done with a Marshall modded by Mark :)

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As per usual I have nothing valid to add here, but I was listening to Secret Society earlier today, and John Norum is as freakin' good as eva :rock:

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As per usual I have nothing valid to add here, but I was listening to Secret Society earlier today, and John Norum is as freakin' good as eva :rock:


He's a killer player! On the Europe Live From The Dark dvd, on the second dvd theres a bunch of behind the scenes footage. At some point on there the camera man goes to John Norum while he's warming up backstage. Man he is just blazing on his LP through a small practice amp and still sounding huge!!!! :rock:

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MrDan666 wrote:
CharFace wrote:
As per usual I have nothing valid to add here, but I was listening to Secret Society earlier today, and John Norum is as freakin' good as eva :rock:


He's a killer player! On the Europe Live From The Dark dvd, on the second dvd theres a bunch of behind the scenes footage. At some point on there the camera man goes to John Norum while he's warming up backstage. Man he is just blazing on his LP through a small practice amp and still sounding huge!!!! :rock:


i busted out Wings of Tomorrow and boy did that bring back memories! :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 13, 2008 8:02pm 
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i busted out Wings of Tomorrow and boy did that bring back memories! :thumbsup:


Awesome playing on that album too!! Man John gets some killer strat tones on the early stuff :rock:

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i busted out Wings of Tomorrow and boy did that bring back memories! :thumbsup:


Awesome playing on that album too!! Man John gets some killer strat tones on the early stuff :rock:



no kidding! He played so raw and as always taseful and melodic...he's got that natural Euro - vibrato thing going on too. :thumbsup:

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no kidding! He played so raw and as always taseful and melodic...he's got that natural Euro - vibrato thing going on too. :thumbsup:


I can definitly hear it! He has an old school Gary Moore type of aggressiveness in his playing when he goes for it!

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no kidding! He played so raw and as always taseful and melodic...he's got that natural Euro - vibrato thing going on too. :thumbsup:


I can definitly hear it! He has an old school Gary Moore type of aggressiveness in his playing when he goes for it!


total Gary Moore influence and u can hear that Schenker vibe too!

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Check out my avatar - John's latest solo album Optimus (2005). Guitar playing and tone is great but the songs, singing and vibe is incredible. John sounds like he was on a BLS binge at the time ogf making the album, but overall great record - it's been a personal fav of mine as of late.

I was listening to "face the truth" this morning - totally badass playing tone and songs. John is awesome!

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Check out my avatar - John's latest solo album Optimus (2005). Guitar playing and tone is great but the songs, singing and vibe is incredible. John sounds like he was on a BLS binge at the time ogf making the album, but overall great record - it's been a personal fav of mine as of late.

I was listening to "face the truth" this morning - totally badass playing tone and songs. John is awesome!

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Optimus is a great CD! Face The Truth is one of my fav's though... he absolutely fkn tears it up on the solo to the title track. Sounds like old Gary Moore style on steroids!!! :rock:

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I watched the Europe DVD and it doesn't have the part where John shows gear? I live USA so maybe that was a problem?


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I watched the Europe DVD and it doesn't have the part where John shows gear? I live USA so maybe that was a problem?


Its on the Live From The Dark DVD on disc2, "OnStage interviews about the band's equipment". Each member of the band talks you through their gear and stuff. John shows you each guitar and tells a bit about it, then shows you the 2205's and talks about the KT88s. Then shows his Roland Delay and his pedalboard.

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Norum is playing Cameron Modded Marshalls.....

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Norum is playing Cameron Modded Marshalls.....



On the last two europe tours its been Michael Schenkers 2205's. i know Norum has used Cameron modded Marshalls though.. especially on Another Destination.

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Ahhh I just got one disc from Netflix :( bastards.

Yeah I know Mark, he used it on Another Destination. Present time 2205. DVD sounded great but I felt it was missing some mids. Obviously due to the KT88 I am guessing but it did sound goo don the "new modern songs" but like on cherokee it needed upper mids.


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Ahhh I just got one disc from Netflix :( bastards.

Yeah I know Mark, he used it on Another Destination. Present time 2205. DVD sounded great but I felt it was missing some mids. Obviously due to the KT88 I am guessing but it did sound goo don the "new modern songs" but like on cherokee it needed upper mids.


I agree! I think the tone is cool.. but IMO it doesnt come close to his earlier tones when he was using Jose Arredondo modded Marshalls (Don Dokken/ Face the Truth era)... and then a bit later on when he used the Cameron mods, his tone was huge too!

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