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John Petrucci Vs Guthrie Govan
Petrucci 35%  35%  [ 38 ]
Govan 65%  65%  [ 71 ]
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Whom do you think is a bettter guitarrist? I don't mean whose music you prefer.

I find Guthrie alot more impressive but JP is a great songwriter as well.


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Guthrie, by quite some way IMO. He can just do more.

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Guthrie, by quite some way IMO. He can just do more.

My thoughts.


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JP isn't worthy of tying GG's shoes


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Now that IS funny :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:


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RaceU4her wrote:
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I never got into Buckethead, and my taste is impeccable so I'm guessing this is a joke? :D


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I never got into Buckethead, and my taste is impeccable so I'm guessing this is a joke? :D




joke?






he can rip some jimi too


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Wow. This is a tough one for me. I've never heard a song that I've like from Govan. DT has some KILLER riffs and songs, but I prefer Govans tone, touch and feel by a long shot over JP.

Have to go with Govan if this is a playing vote. :yes:

If it was a songwriting, riff vote it'd be JP by a mile. By the way, songwriting is waaaay more important. :yes:

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RaceU4her wrote:
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I never got into Buckethead, and my taste is impeccable so I'm guessing this is a joke? :D




joke?






he can rip some jimi too


He's an OK technician.
But plays like a stale piece of bread.
Dull, lifeless, boring, drab, mechanical, unoriginal, and very limited.
YMMV
Oh, and that Machine Gun cover was embarrassing.


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I'm going to go with Petrucci, there's not much he can't play imo. GG is no doubt really good, but I haven't heard any material from him I would actually want to listen to. This being about technique I haven't seen GG do anything that JP couldn't do.

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Wow. This is a tough one for me. I've never heard a song that I've like from Govan. DT has some KILLER riffs and songs, but I prefer Govans tone, touch and feel by a long shot over JP.

Have to go with Govan if this is a playing vote. :yes:

If it was a songwriting, riff vote it'd be JP by a mile. By the way, songwriting is waaaay more important. :yes:


That's why I LOVE Andy Timmons. :D yeah. I meant it as a playing vote, JP wins for songs for me too. but you can't compare the two. I could compare Satch and Vai or something.


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I guess it depends on if you want to hear jazz shred or prog with a horrible singer. I really don't dig eithers music, but I think if I could only pick one of them, based on skill alone it would be Govan by a mile.

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He's an OK technician.
But plays like a stale piece of bread.
Dull, lifeless, boring, drab, mechanical, unoriginal, and very limited.


All of that is very hilarious...Obviously you haven't heard too much of his stuff.

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Hard to say IMO. I like Guthrie's solo album more than any of Petrucci's by far, but Petrucci wrote song amazing songs back in the day with Dream Theater. And I never liked Buckethead at all either. Don't find his playing interesting at all.


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I guess it depends on if you want to hear jazz shred or prog with a horrible singer. I really don't dig eithers music, but I think if I could only pick one of them, based on skill alone it would be Govan by a mile.

Ancient Alien wrote:
He's an OK technician.
But plays like a stale piece of bread.
Dull, lifeless, boring, drab, mechanical, unoriginal, and very limited.


All of that is very hilarious...Obviously you haven't heard too much of his stuff.

I actually own everything he's done and seen him live 6 times.
It was like just having to look at the dead body of a car accident.
I didn't want to, but I had to.
A lot of people love him, I just have seen it done over and over.
JP and Yngwie at G3 were the same. They just didn't fit.
I'd take JP over BH any day.


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Guthrie is amazing. Had the privilege of hosting him at my old store (Tone Merchants). He is an alien! The only other-worldly player that I can think of is Alan Holdsworth.


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Ancient Alien wrote:
Motorpud wrote:
I guess it depends on if you want to hear jazz shred or prog with a horrible singer. I really don't dig eithers music, but I think if I could only pick one of them, based on skill alone it would be Govan by a mile.

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He's an OK technician.
But plays like a stale piece of bread.
Dull, lifeless, boring, drab, mechanical, unoriginal, and very limited.


All of that is very hilarious...Obviously you haven't heard too much of his stuff.

I actually own everything he's done and seen him live 6 times.
It was like just having to look at the dead body of a car accident.
I didn't want to, but I had to.
A lot of people love him, I just have seen it done over and over.
JP and Yngwie at G3 were the same. They just didn't fit.
I'd take JP over BH any day.


Wow, you own all 30 something of his CDs from the last 20 years? And you say you're not a fan :D

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Motorpud wrote:
Ancient Alien wrote:
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I guess it depends on if you want to hear jazz shred or prog with a horrible singer. I really don't dig eithers music, but I think if I could only pick one of them, based on skill alone it would be Govan by a mile.

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He's an OK technician.
But plays like a stale piece of bread.
Dull, lifeless, boring, drab, mechanical, unoriginal, and very limited.


All of that is very hilarious...Obviously you haven't heard too much of his stuff.

I actually own everything he's done and seen him live 6 times.
It was like just having to look at the dead body of a car accident.
I didn't want to, but I had to.
A lot of people love him, I just have seen it done over and over.
JP and Yngwie at G3 were the same. They just didn't fit.
I'd take JP over BH any day.


Wow, you own all 30 something of his CDs from the last 20 years? And you say you're not a fan :D


I give EVERYTHING an honest listening to.
I have 27, but if there is a few more, I'll DL them too.
I've just been waiting for him to WOW me.
Just hasn't happened yet.


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Funny because some of them were made in very small quantities and can't even be downloaded... but either way :thumbsup:

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both! :D no need to choose guys, the good lord gave humanity both guitarists to enjoy :rock:


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both! :D no need to choose guys, the good lord gave humanity both guitarists to enjoy :rock:


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Who are you people? JP can't tie Govan's shoes? Buckethead is dull, lifeless, boring, drab, mechanical, unoriginal, and very limited? All these guys are killer guitar players. What's with pissing on guys with truckloads of talent? Does that make anyone feel a lot better about themselves? I mean, got it, you like one better than the other, but let's get real here folks.

P.S. check out Buckethead's Electric Tears or Population Overdrive to get a complete different side to his boring unoriginalness.

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both of them stink on ice. as does every one like them. :thumbsdown:

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I think Govan is definitely a better player but I like JP's songwriting better.

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I think they're too much in opposition to say which is the "better" musician. I personally think Govan is one of the most subtly amazing musicians of all time, but I bet he'd struggle with a JP song, just like Petrucci would struggle with a GG song. In fact, I think he'd struggle even more since Govan has such a very unique style that only few seem to bother practising/developing.

But with all that said, I'd rather listen to JP in a band situation than GG. His style is easier to listen, easier to understand and easier to groove. I really appreciate jazz and contemporary rock, I just don't really listen to it. Though neither do I listen to Dream Theatre that much.

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Both are great guitarist, but Guthrie is just in a whole other level of playing. I do love DT music more and have been a Petrucci fan for over 20 years.

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I think they're too much in opposition to say which is the "better" musician. I personally think Govan is one of the most subtly amazing musicians of all time, but I bet he'd struggle with a JP song, just like Petrucci would struggle with a GG song. In fact, I think he'd struggle even more since Govan has such a very unique style that only few seem to bother practising/developing.

But with all that said, I'd rather listen to JP in a band situation than GG. His style is easier to listen, easier to understand and easier to groove. I really appreciate jazz and contemporary rock, I just don't really listen to it. Though neither do I listen to Dream Theatre that much.


I don't think he would have to really put any effort into coping JP's playing.
He can nail just about anyones style and feel, and obviously GG is faster.
Not so for JP.
JP is a great guitarist, but very linear in his playing.
I do enjoy JP in a band context, but as a solo artist he bores me.
He is definitely a band guitarist, not an instrumentalist.
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Better...who cares. I love both guitar players but prefer to listen to Petrucci's music from I&W thru SDOIT. Erotic Cakes is a great release too. I prefer to watch Guthrie perform.

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Let me borrow Govan's words. Guitar playing isn't a sport. So there's no "best" guitar player.


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GG is a Scot, so he can probably drink JP under the table.


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I refuse to take part in this poll, as it's pointless (and lame) to claim one to be better than the other. Both are exceptional guitarists. I can say that Govan is more versatile because he is a fusion player that encompasses many more styles.

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Guthrie in the poll, Gilbert in our hearts. ;)

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Both are great players but, I pick Petrucci.


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JP for me. They can both do things the other player can't. It comes down to which styles you prefer.
Guthrie might have a little more of that wow factor these days..the guy is just ridiculous, but I feel that John can craft a really melodic and powerful lead much more effectively. His lead on The Looking Glass is a perfect example.

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Technically and knowledge wise... none much better than Guthrie Govan.. besides Shawn Lane, Jason Becker, and a few others.

JP is a great guitarist, songwriter... tho tends to stay in his same formula/box when writing/playing. But he is great...and i like his solo work much more than Dream Theater stuff.

Personally, I'd rather listen to Andy Timmons, Paul Gilbert, Joe Bonamassa, Marco Sfogli, Eric Johnson... all great players in their own right and just sound much more 'musical' to my ears. Many more I could throw in there too. Cheers

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I'd have to throw Kotzen in the mix as well..ridiculous player AND a good vocalist.. :rock:

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Scroll to 5:04, listen to the whole solo.



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I never got into Buckethead, and my taste is impeccable so I'm guessing this is a joke? :D




joke?






he can rip some jimi too


Buckethead is no joke!!!

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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 09, 2013 4:47pm 
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both! :D no need to choose guys, the good lord gave humanity both guitarists to enjoy :rock:




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Whom do you think is a bettter guitarrist? I don't mean whose music you prefer.

I find Guthrie alot more impressive but JP is a great songwriter as well.

What? It's impossible to measure the skills of musicians of that caliber. This will ultimately be a discussion of which music each individual prefers, not the comparison of skills you intended. That's just plain impossible.

I prefer Petrucci if we are talking about guitar alone. But when places in the context of their projects, I lean toward Govan. One is not better than the other, they are different flavors.

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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 09, 2013 5:22pm 
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Spaceboy wrote:
Tawlks wrote:
Whom do you think is a bettter guitarrist? I don't mean whose music you prefer.

I find Guthrie alot more impressive but JP is a great songwriter as well.

What? It's impossible to measure the skills of musicians of that caliber. This will ultimately be a discussion of which music each individual prefers, not the comparison of skills you intended. That's just plain impossible.

I prefer Petrucci if we are talking about guitar alone. But when places in the context of their projects, I lean toward Govan. One is not better than the other, they are different flavors.


I'd be willing to bet that GG could do a better job at reproducing a JP piece, than JP would at reproducing a GG piece

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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 5:55pm 
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Govan all the way!He just needs more material.


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fusion or metal is really what its about


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RaceU4her wrote:
buckethead

Definitely!

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However, Guthrie is infinitely more technical than the fat boy JP.

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That's why I LOVE Andy Timmons. :D yeah. I meant it as a playing vote, JP wins for songs for me too. but you can't compare the two. I could compare Satch and Vai or something.

Andy Timmons sucks (typical garage band whanker)!

And no, you can't compare Satriani to Vai. Satriani isn't even in the same league as Vai. As a matter of fact, Satriani has not league!


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