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Listening to some music this morning and "Back For More" popped on my mp3 player and it just reminds me of how distinctive Warren's style is. He's easily one of the best guitar slinger's of the 80's and is still tearing up today. He was a huge influence on my when I started playing back in 1985. What a great solo on this song:


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I wish he did more outside of Ratt. It seemed like such a limited platform for his playing in that band.

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Warren was my favorite guitarist of that era, just had the feel and note choice. Man that video is whacky.

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been a long time since i seen that video, nikki sixx and tommy lee made a cameo in that video

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great player.i love this tune.

i left them behind after "dancing undercover"
Pearcy's vocal just ruin it for me on newer material..i still get into the "ratt ep","out of the cellar" and "invasion of your privacy" regularly though.

i think you just knocked me out of my Dio phase and i'll be jamming some Ratt today.

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Warren´s playing is very cool, if a bit similar to Lynch at times. I wish he had been in a better band, though, I never got into Ratt except for a few tunes. But you know someone has serious skills when they´ve been in Whitesnake... Coverdale has had some major guitar talent in that band over the years; Sykes, Vandenberg, Vai, Viv Campbell, Warren, Steve Farris, Reb Beach and Doug Aldrich. Moody and Marsden were no slouches either, back there in the early days.

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warren and lynch was and still are my 2 favorites from that era, when i was a kid i listened to them and today i still listen to them.
I also liked pearcy and liked his recorded vocals.

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Warren is a huge influence and a great guy!

I got to meet him back stage when Ratt was touring with Jizzy on vocals.

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Warren > Lynch


Not to me. Lynch had monster chops and a more unique tone and feel IMHO. Listen to the Stars video, Lynch totally jumped out. The only other who did were Yngwie and Schon.

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danyeo wrote:
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Not to me. Lynch had monster chops and a more unique tone and feel IMHO. Listen to the Stars video, Lynch totally jumped out. The only other who did were Yngwie and Schon.



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Are you kidding me? Nobody jumps out on the stars video except for Yngwie and Schon in parts. Everyone else sucks and has horrible tone...Lynch included.. sounds like a trebly mess. (which is funny because we are always trying to chase vintage tone.. well that vintage tone is vintage for a reason)

Warren is one if not my fav. player of that era. Phrasing, tone, chops...he had and STILL has it all. The only problem as already mentioned, is the fact that RATT really didn't have that strong of material (Reach for the Sky was an awesome album though) and although he did tour with whitesnake for a bit in the 90's, I remember seeing some of the live footage and his style just doesn't seem to fit.


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Brad Gillis seriously? If you consider tone to be a floyd Rose see-sawing through a solo then maybe!

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Brad Gillis seriously? If you consider tone to be a floyd Rose see-sawing through a solo then maybe!

Uh Oh I'm turning into the new american idol Randy today! I'm mean!



I thought he jumped out a lot more than Schon did, and I love Neil. Different strokes.... :yes: You're right though, most of the solo's on there were unrecognizable until Yngwie ripped off that monster arpeggio/pedal tone lick.

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Yeah Malmsteen cuts through with that sig. lick of his and even just looking at him, he knows he's the shit out of that litter.


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When I was a freshman in high school, I wanted to be Warren DiMartini. I wore a bandana around my neck like him, wore eyeliner, and even painted a toy guitar I had since I was a kid to look like his "crossed swords" guitar. I was really skinny like him (back then) :) My friends even used to call me "Warren" as a nickname.

People laugh now about Ratt but for those of us that were playing guitar back in the 80s, we know Ratt was the shit back then, along with Lynch, Yngwie, and others. I was a huge Vivian Campbell fan back then when he was in DIO. I got pissed when he left for DL though. :)


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Are you kidding me? Nobody jumps out on the stars video except for Yngwie and Schon in parts. Everyone else sucks and has horrible tone...Lynch included.. sounds like a trebly mess. (which is funny because we are always trying to chase vintage tone.. well that vintage tone is vintage for a reason)

Warren is one if not my fav. player of that era. Phrasing, tone, chops...he had and STILL has it all. The only problem as already mentioned, is the fact that RATT really didn't have that strong of material (Reach for the Sky was an awesome album though) and although he did tour with whitesnake for a bit in the 90's, I remember seeing some of the live footage and his style just doesn't seem to fit.



If you can't hear Lynch in that crowd then clean the poop out of your ears.

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Warren is definitely in my top 5 favs from that era. No particular order.

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Ya, there's something to this for sure...

Vid was great. Personally, although it's uber cheezy and shit, it's kinda fun to see how we all used to glob onto that some 25 years ago or so eh? I mean, it's so tacky, but it's fun - there's some joking around - and yes, of course, there's the pursed pornstar lips of all the musicians and they strum their guitars and whip them around in a completely unplayable manner, but whatever, we'll skip that part and say - ya, there's something to be said about the craft in those days :lol: :LOL:

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I remember hearing back in the day that Warren took lessons from Lynch. Not sure though. Yeah Lynch killed the We Are Stars track cold, he also looked cool while playing, I also always liked Buck Darma from BOC on that vid, his swingin' feel was awesome and refreshing after 20 80's guitarists.

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I hear him alright and he sounds like shit on this track..diff. strokes for diff folks. :thumbsup:

Warren did rip off a few of Lynch's licks though but for the most part he had his own style.

PS- they are back to back on the guitarists link for Stars and Malmsteen demolishes him in my opinion. Just saying for that particular session not in general and this does not reflect on any of the awesome stuff Lynch did in the 80's.


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Are you kidding me? Nobody jumps out on the stars video except for Yngwie and Schon in parts. Everyone else sucks and has horrible tone...Lynch included.. sounds like a trebly mess.

This may be the absolute dumbest thing that anybody has said on a forum, ever. :poke:

In all seriousness I thought Lynch killed it on that song. Yngwie was good but I actually thought he phoned it in compared to some of his other material from those days...he could have done better. I haven't heard it in a long time but I recall liking what Craig Goldy did as well.

As for Lynch and Demartini...both great players but Demartini was admittedly heavily influenced by George and flat out ripped off his vibrato technique. I always preferred Lynch but Warren wasn't too far behind for me in the beginning. Then it seemed that as George progressed, Warren got more laid back and bluesy (which I appreciate more now than I did back then). Warren did tear it up on the latest Ratt album though...his work was definitely a throwback to the early days.

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meh, i'm not taking the bait... we'd all have tone like that if we were back in the 80's and hind sight is 20/20 with the gear we have available to us now. Lynch, Gillis, Malmsteen all kick my ass on guitar so who cares.......... buuuuuuut , Lynch still sucks in that vid. :D


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Man, Yngwie owned everyone in there. Lynch was kinda awesome too.

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donbarzini wrote:
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meh, i'm not taking the bait... we'd all have tone like that if we were back in the 80's and hind sight is 20/20 with the gear we have available to us now. Lynch, Gillis, Malmsteen all kick my ass on guitar so who cares.......... buuuuuuut , Lynch still sucks in that vid. :D


What about the BOC dude with the beard? He really didn't fit in.

Agreed, he wasn't very cute...I like the younger guys with tans.


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around the time of Stars, Lynch was at the top of his game! After EVH switched gears in the late 80's Lynch carried the torch for LA rock guitar ( IMHO).. Tooth and nail through Back for the Attack is benchmark sunset strip rock guitar! Dimartini was great but never had the songs, or guitar hero factor that Lynch had in his prime.

Around Lynch Mob and on I felt George got too far away from the signature melodic style of the classic Dokken years and I lost a bit of interest..


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Randy Van Sykes wrote:
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meh, i'm not taking the bait... we'd all have tone like that if we were back in the 80's and hind sight is 20/20 with the gear we have available to us now. Lynch, Gillis, Malmsteen all kick my ass on guitar so who cares.......... buuuuuuut , Lynch still sucks in that vid. :D


What about the BOC dude with the beard? He really didn't fit in.

Agreed, he wasn't very cute...I like the younger guys with tans.


I'm sure Rob Halford had a great time doing that video. A room full of guys all to himself. :D

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This is kinda funny (to me only i guess), but last night after seeing this lynch thread I went to my "go to" video when I want to feel good about Lynch, and sure enough it was the Hear N Aid thing. I too was about 14 and I bought the full video and probably watched the solos 500 times. Lynch is by far #1 on that for being on top of his finger-vibrato, abstract playing. Just wild. I was always a fan of the Goldy stuff, Buck Dharma for the previously mentioned swinging style, and of course Yngwie came in and ripped. Wasn't a huge fan of the wife-beater Brad Gillis look and thought Schon was just wanking away. Obviously, this thing was a big boost to Craig Goldy and unfortunately is about the same time Vivian turned soft-rock.


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Schon, GIllis, Lynch,YJM, all instantly recognizable.....Partial to Schon and Gillis myself.

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Wow. its an 80's metal "We Are The World". Never heard of it before today.

I have to admit it gave me a chuckle.

For a first time hearing it, Ill agree with the majority - GL & YM FTW. Schon was ok. Everyone else was average filler. I think this video is very representitive of the 80s metal/shred era....a few standout talents and the rest are copycats and filler

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This is kinda funny (to me only i guess), but last night after seeing this lynch thread I went to my "go to" video when I want to feel good about Lynch, and sure enough it was the Hear N Aid thing. I too was about 14 and I bought the full video and probably watched the solos 500 times. Lynch is by far #1 on that for being on top of his finger-vibrato, abstract playing. Just wild. I was always a fan of the Goldy stuff, Buck Dharma for the previously mentioned swinging style, and of course Yngwie came in and ripped. Wasn't a huge fan of the wife-beater Brad Gillis look and thought Schon was just wanking away. Obviously, this thing was a big boost to Craig Goldy and unfortunately is about the same time Vivian turned soft-rock.


I cringe when I hear Brad Gillis getting all whammy happy with his steel wool hair-do


At least he was doing it in the 80's when it wasn't annoying. No, it was always annoying.

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Warren did rip off a few of Lynch's licks though but for the most part he had his own style.


He copied George's splayed picking hand technique as well. :lol: :LOL:

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I cringe when I read guitarists posting on a board that Gillis and Vivian Campbell And Cavazo were "average filler and that Neal Schon was "ok".....

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