Winger 17 - isolated guitar

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That was really cool. Reb has a style that stands out. Isolated I think his tone was rather blah but it sounds so great in the mix. A good lesson in what’s best for the song and not just the player.
 
That was really cool. Reb has a style that stands out. Isolated I think his tone was rather blah but it sounds so great in the mix. A good lesson in what’s best for the song and not just the player.
I think that is common to most recordings .. less gained out than you'd think and usually toms of treble and mids. Sometimes brittle and bitey but they fill that out with a big thick bass line and it sounds amazing in the mix. Such a great riff.
 
That's a lot of sizzle....was it ADA?

From his website:

I'm pretty sure that the Marshall I used on the first Winger record was a rental from S.I.R. I got to know all the serial numbers of the best Marshalls, and would have the guys hold the good ones for me when an album project was coming up. So the 'Headed for a Heartbreak' tone is the same as every other solo tone on the record, maybe just EQ'd a little differently or placed louder in the mix. I just get a nice, fat, gug-gug, chunky kind of sound through the Marshall and then kick in my Boss SD-1 distortion pedal for sustain. That is my tone and has been on every record I've done.
 
I think that is common to most recordings .. less gained out than you'd think and usually toms of treble and mids. Sometimes brittle and bitey but they fill that out with a big thick bass line and it sounds amazing in the mix. Such a great riff.
I totally understand the less gain. That was easily the best thing I discovered in my limited studio time. There’s just something about that tone that I don’t agree with but it’s more personal preference and absolutely secondary to Reb’s phenomenal playing
 
What’s amazing is when I hear the isolated tracks it’s quite apparent I’ve been no where close…. Not even, man. Just playing it wrong
 
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I was 14 when that song came out. Listening to the lyrics now at 45 are a bit cringy, but that guitar work is still killer. Like “Christine 16” or Les Zepplin’s 16 y/o “rider,” I have a different reaction to that now than I did then. ?
I always felt that Reb’s rhythm playing was as interesting, or even more interesting, than his lead playing.
 
I was 14 when that song came out. Listening to the lyrics now at 45 are a bit cringy, but that guitar work is still killer. Like “Christine 16” or Les Zepplin’s 16 y/o “rider,” I have a different reaction to that now than I did then. ?
I always felt that Reb’s rhythm playing was as interesting, or even more interesting, than his lead playing.
That's how I feel about Vai. Everyone jizzing over his legato leads that mostly bore me but his rythm playing is awesome.
 
Does it sound like one guitar doubled with delay on one side VH1 style or did they delay the second doubled track slightly for more girth and then add delay? Def. not played twice RR style.
 
^ yeah, it has a lot of delay/chorus/double track feel - never looked it up


I dig Reb's playing. It was this that attracted me to that Winger sound. Def had nothing to do with Kip Winger :LOL: Although he is talented in his own right.

That riff is trickier to play than it sounds too :yes:

 
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