Marshall JVM210 does EVH....

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jabps said:
Sounds good. Love those amps.
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I've had the 205H multiple times. I loved it, but also at times got frustrated with it...

OD2 Orange is that tone, but OD2 red is over the top. If they had separate gain controls, that would be ideal. I loved red for leads. Very rich, harmonically. A built-in noise gate would also be ideal! It's by far the noisiest amp I've ever owned.
 
Sounds good OP. I think that's down to the player. Heard a lil Lynch in there, too.

Had a JVM, agree that it was frustrating and noisy.
 
journeyman73 said:
Noisier than a current EVH??
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I had the EVH lunchbox, didn't find it to be noisy. I've played the big ones in store a few times, never felt they were too noisy.

The JVM I had was super compressed with lots of hiss, felt like it wanted to feedback at even moderate gain settings.

Played a JJ Jr yesterday that was super noisy as well, at GC. Sounded like something was not right with it. Who knows what that poor lil amp has been thru. Now that I think about it, my JVM was from GC, too. Hmmm.
 
Might be noisy, but that sounds much more "early VH" than I've ever heard out of the 5153 line. I'd rather have the tone and worry about the noise than not have the noise but worry about the tone.
 
SoooRad said:
Might be noisy, but that sounds much more "early VH" than I've ever heard out of the 5153 line. I'd rather have the tone and worry about the noise than not have the noise but worry about the tone.
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I agree. The EVH's don't do those tones at all.

I always used an ISP Decimator, which did the trick!
 
I am seriously digging that tone! I have a plexi clone landing tomorrow and I am hoping to get in that ballpark with it, and a boost of course.

The EVH cabs are great also. I have one that run along with a greenback loaded 1960B. The speakers in the EVH cab just ever so slightly smooth out the high end in a nice way.
 
napalmdeath said:
I've had the 205H multiple times. I loved it, but also at times got frustrated with it...

OD2 Orange is that tone, but OD2 red is over the top. If they had separate gain controls, that would be ideal. I loved red for leads. Very rich, harmonically. A built-in noise gate would also be ideal! It's by far the noisiest amp I've ever owned.
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The 205 and 210's OD channels are modeled after the 410's OD2 channels.

On the 410 OD1 Orange is where I live. It's pure Modded Marshall. Santiago had an eq setting to mimic OD1 Orange with the 205 and 210's. That said, I could easily get by with the 205's and 210's. I've got OD2 on my 410 dialed in as close as I can to OD1Orange but it's different. To my ear OD2 is a little more gainy and naturally scooped. Hair more modern sounding. Not sure why they didn't make OD on the 205 and 210's the same as the 410.

If you get a chance check out OD1 Orange on the 410, maybe that will cure the frustration point.

Regardless I really like the clip above. Excellent.

As I type I'm working a deal to buy another 410, I always regretted letting my other 410 go. Always like to have a back up for whatever.
 
napalmdeath said:
I agree. The EVH's don't do those tones at all.

I always used an ISP Decimator, which did the trick!
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True. I have them side by side. You can get close with the 5153 but that's about it. It just doesn't have the slice or Marshall feel in the mids.
 
jabps said:
The 205 and 210's OD channels are modeled after the 410's OD2 channels.

On the 410 OD1 Orange is where I live. It's pure Modded Marshall. Santiago had an eq setting to mimic OD1 Orange with the 205 and 210's. That said, I could easily get by with the 205's and 210's. I've got OD2 on my 410 dialed in as close as I can to OD1Orange but it's different. To my ear OD2 is a little more gainy and naturally scooped. Hair more modern sounding. Not sure why they didn't make OD on the 205 and 210's the same as the 410.

If you get a chance check out OD1 Orange on the 410, maybe that will cure the frustration point.

Regardless I really like the clip above. Excellent.

As I type I'm working a deal to buy another 410, I always regretted letting my other 410 go. Always like to have a back up for whatever.
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A 410 crossed my mind several times!

Had a friend that had one and hated it. I retubed it for him and biased it, and he was a total newbie to boosting. I brought my trusty MXR Wylde OD with me when I had it all up to snuff.. His jaw hit the floor when I threw that pedal at it. A week later, he sold it because he still couldn't dial it in. Total user-error. He had an older checkerboard Marshall 4x12 with Greenbacks too. It sounded fantastic when I dialed it in! Him, not so much.

Have another friend with an '87 2205, and he can't dial it in either. Makes me sick, he won't sell it to me! He dials it in so bright it rips your head off, then bitches that it's too bright. Uh, turn some knobs down, dummy!
 
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napalmdeath said:
A 410 crossed my mind several times!

Had a friend that had one and hated it. I retubed it for him and biased it, and he was a total newbie to boosting. I brought my trusty MXR Wylde OD with me when I had it all up to snuff.. His jaw hit the floor when I threw that pedal at it. A week later, he sold it because he still couldn't dial it in. Total user-error. He had an older checkerboard Marshall 4x12 with Greenbacks too. It sounded fantastic when I dialed it in! Him, not so much.

Have another friend with an '87 2205, and he can't dial it in either. Makes me sick, he won't sell it to me! He dials it in so bright it rips your head off, then bitches that it's too bright. Uh, turn some knobs down, dummy!
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They are no different than any other amp, work for some, don't work for others. In fact they guy I am buying from hasn't ever been able to really dial it in for his preference. He's even used my exact settings and he's like what are you doing lol.

I had a Mezzabara Trinity last year and I tried everything in the world to dial in that amp to my liking and never got close for rhythm tones. Eq front and in the loop, boosted with various overdrive and boosts from an ep booster to a standard SD-1, no luck. I could just never get it to sit right to my ear for rhythm tones. But man what an incredible amp...just not for me. I always say most of the amps I have owned and let go aren't bad, they just aren't for me.
 
jabps said:
They are no different than any other amp, work for some, don't work for others. In fact they guy I am buying from hasn't ever been able to really dial it in for his preference. He's even used my exact settings and he's like what are you doing lol.

I had a Mezzabara Trinity last year and I tried everything in the world to dial in that amp to my liking and never got close for rhythm tones. Eq front and in the loop, boosted with various overdrive and boosts from an ep booster to a standard SD-1, no luck. I could just never get it to sit right to my ear for rhythm tones. But man what an incredible amp...just not for me. I always say most of the amps I have owned and let go aren't bad, they just aren't for me.
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I know all too well. I let a few go that were for me and didn't connect the dots. The Engl Artist I have is a great example, but I was lucky to find a 50 watt that I wanted over the 100 anyway.
 
napalmdeath said:
I know all too well. I let a few go that were for me and didn't connect the dots. The Engl Artist I have is a great example, but I was lucky to find a 50 watt that I wanted over the 100 anyway.
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I traded an Artist to get that Trinity and "for me" hands down I liked the Artist better. For marshallesque Engl tones, that's the one. I loved the Artist. Tip my hat to Mezzabarba though, the workmanship is no joke. But that doesn't men anything in the long run if you can't dial in the tones to your taste. Same thing I learned back in the 90's when I owned my dream amp an SLO and I preferred my 5150 over it. You either bond with an amp or you don't and the price tag makes no difference.
 
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napalmdeath said:
A 410 crossed my mind several times!

Had a friend that had one and hated it. I retubed it for him and biased it, and he was a total newbie to boosting. I brought my trusty MXR Wylde OD with me when I had it all up to snuff.. His jaw hit the floor when I threw that pedal at it. A week later, he sold it because he still couldn't dial it in. Total user-error. He had an older checkerboard Marshall 4x12 with Greenbacks too. It sounded fantastic when I dialed it in! Him, not so much.

Have another friend with an '87 2205, and he can't dial it in either. Makes me sick, he won't sell it to me! He dials it in so bright it rips your head off, then bitches that it's too bright. Uh, turn some knobs down, dummy!
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Thing for me is (and I know plenty of people would not look at it the same way)… with, what, 4 channels with 3 modes each all with their own own eq, gain, volume…and I would STILL need to run a pedal in front? i’m out! Lol
 
I've played a DSL before and the ultra channel gain structure was a bloated mess but that JVM clips is really good!

Quite a few boutique amps don't deliver what I'm hearing in that clip. The guy that did the clip has all the 5153 amps the Iconic 5150 and I think this Marshall JVM orange channel is sounding pretty righteous!
 
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