What do you consider modern metal ?

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In my head:

- 1940-1959 "Origins Era" early black blues, rock n roll, early electric guitar etc
- 1960-1979 "Classic Era" the rock sound is created
- 1980-1999 "Main Era" guitar is apart of everything from pop to rock, innovations in sounds
- 2000-2019 "Modern Era" tradition fades, extra strings appear, digital rises, accessibility to recording open up
- 2020+ "Post Modern Era" compression, new techniques and approaches

Depending on what era you are in, there is a sociological tendency to "hate" the following generation from your own. It serves the next generation of players absolutely fuck all. They don't care anyway (just like we didn't care when the oldies told us to shut the fuck up) ;)
 
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Lamb Of God - Omens

That's a perfect example of a modern metal album. It's got the tone, production, songwriting of a modern metal album. Personally I prefer old Lamb Of God though, like the Killadelphia DVD, that was killer, and I did like the tone on it, especially Will Adlers tone.
 
I’m a big LoG fan but don’t really consider them modern metal, they’re just a metal band putting out albums in modern times with modern production, but the stuff they write isn’t reflective of what’s happening in metal today. They’re still doing drop-D thrash metal riffs with death metal vocals. They’ve got a few breakdowns but they aren’t a feature in every song, they don’t just slam on one bendy note and call it a day and there’s definitely no pretty, clean singing choruses reflective of metalcore.

Actually, I think I got that from Chris Adler, “We’re a thrash metal band with a death metal vocalist”

People mostly covered who I perceive as modern metal. There was shift right around 2012 where it went from the metalcore thing to Periphery getting “huge” and all the djent/prog-influenced metal become the standard for the younger generation. Just go to Sevenstring.org and see what they’re listening to and getting their influences from these days.

There’s some of it where I can feel my old man yelling at clouds kicking in, I totally dig a shitload of Trivium, but there’s some tunes in there I don’t really get the feel of metal from, despite the aesthetic telling me it’s metal. Screaming vocals, riffs, crazy drums, etc., plenty of Killswitch songs like that. And now with bands like Sleep Token and even Periphery, they’re taking shit Dream Theater did in the 90’s by mixing Yes and Metallica but the modern take is “Let’s mix up Dream Theater and Drake”, or “Linking Park meant as much to me as Meshuggah and this is how that filters out….”

While I don’t dig all the music, I absolutely dig the lack of gatekeeping/barriers and fucking with the idea of what “belongs” in metal. I hate fucking rules in music. Lame as fuck, even if I don’t dig the music that comes from not paying attention to the rules.
 
Markedman said:
I am really fucking old, here is the deal!

When Boston came out with their first album, that was the first time we heard the sound of modern metal guitar. There was nothing like that sound before, I remember it distinctly.

Then Van Halen came out and everything changed.

For most everyone, it was the first time that they proclaimed that they were 100% blown away by the sound and speed of the new guitar player. The people that were stuck on Eric Clapton, or Southern rock hated it.

Thus, modern metal was born right there and then.
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Good post but Boston was modern metal? IMO it was modern rock with modern rock guitar - but even a lot of that was in the processing and production. Love Boston BTW. I play Boston 1 at least once a month.

Now Van Halen, certainly there were seeds there for Modern Metal, like Atomic Punk, but still modern rock IMO.

A lot of what defines Modern Metal, IMO, was the advances in amplification. And production. Amps prior to the Mark, Recto and 5150 simply didn't have the balls for modern metal. Fight me :D
 
There’s definitely sea change records over the years but I can’t think of anything in the last 20 years except for maybe Mars to Cirius and that’s pretty old now.
 
RevDrucifer said:
I’m a big LoG fan but don’t really consider them modern metal, they’re just a metal band putting out albums in modern times with modern production, but the stuff they write isn’t reflective of what’s happening in metal today. They’re still doing drop-D thrash metal riffs with death metal vocals. They’ve got a few breakdowns but they aren’t a feature in every song, they don’t just slam on one bendy note and call it a day and there’s definitely no pretty, clean singing choruses reflective of metalcore.

Actually, I think I got that from Chris Adler, “We’re a thrash metal band with a death metal vocalist”

People mostly covered who I perceive as modern metal. There was shift right around 2012 where it went from the metalcore thing to Periphery getting “huge” and all the djent/prog-influenced metal become the standard for the younger generation. Just go to Sevenstring.org and see what they’re listening to and getting their influences from these days.

There’s some of it where I can feel my old man yelling at clouds kicking in, I totally dig a shitload of Trivium, but there’s some tunes in there I don’t really get the feel of metal from, despite the aesthetic telling me it’s metal. Screaming vocals, riffs, crazy drums, etc., plenty of Killswitch songs like that. And now with bands like Sleep Token and even Periphery, they’re taking shit Dream Theater did in the 90’s by mixing Yes and Metallica but the modern take is “Let’s mix up Dream Theater and Drake”, or “Linking Park meant as much to me as Meshuggah and this is how that filters out….”

While I don’t dig all the music, I absolutely dig the lack of gatekeeping/barriers and fucking with the idea of what “belongs” in metal. I hate fucking rules in music. Lame as fuck, even if I don’t dig the music that comes from not paying attention to the rules.
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LOG tuned down on quite a few songs on "Omens", as low as B I think? and alot of the songs seem to be groove oriented. It kinda flew past everyones radar though cause it didn't really have a big hit on it like "512" or "Memento Mori", but it's still a good album, just not one that really hits you right away.
 
skoora said:
There’s definitely sea change records over the years but I can’t think of anything in the last 20 years except for maybe Mars to Cirius and that’s pretty old now.
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The last record that really caught my attention was LOG's "as the palaces burn" in 2003. It was a solid record from front to back, and that's pretty rare in metal these days it seems.
 
anomaly said:
The last record that really caught my attention was LOG's "as the palaces burn" in 2003. It was a solid record from front to back, and that's pretty rare in metal these days it seems.
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Check out Turnstile. The album is called Glow On
 
anomaly said:
LOG tuned down on quite a few songs on "Omens", as low as B I think? and alot of the songs seem to be groove oriented. It kinda flew past everyones radar though cause it didn't really have a big hit on it like "512" or "Memento Mori", but it's still a good album, just not one that really hits you right away.
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Didn’t fly under mine! It’s my favorite one they’ve done since Sacrament! Tracking it live definitely introduced a different and much needed energy into the songs and I think having Art in the band is giving them a little extra wind, especially now that he’s comfortable. I was getting pretty bored with them for the last decade.

Funny though, as much as I loved Sacrament back in the day, it might be closer to the bottom of my favorite LoG albums these days.
 
The division between rock and metal took a definitive turn once Dio came out with holy diver and Judas Priest, you’ve got another thing coming and electric eye. I’m only saying this because those were the songs that actually were on the radio nonstop. I’m sure if you dig into it, you can find more obscure metal sounding guitar back in the 60s. But this is when opinions became defined and people would express their opinions to the point where there was a lot of arguments about this new sound. By the late 80s many old farts were calling any kind of metal sounding music Metallica and I would point out that Metallica is actually the name of a band. It all sounded the same to them.
 
Holy Diver .... 1983. I was starting collage and my band covered some of it.
 
RaceU4her said:
I’m that “old guy” when it comes to many things in life, I’m really glad I never became that guy when it comes to music though
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Me too . I love finding new band . Check out turnstiles album glow on man
 
ghosty999 said:
In my head:

- 1940-1959 "Origins Era" early black blues, rock n roll, early electric guitar etc
- 1960-1979 "Classic Era" the rock sound is created
- 1980-1999 "Main Era" guitar is apart of everything from pop to rock, innovations in sounds
- 2000-2019 "Modern Era" tradition fades, extra strings appear, digital rises, accessibility to recording open up
- 2020+ "Post Modern Era" compression, new techniques and approaches

Depending on what era you are in, there is a sociological tendency to "hate" the following generation from your own. It serves the next generation of players absolutely fuck all. They don't care anyway (just like we didn't care when the oldies told us to shut the fuck up) ;)
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Good. Stuff
 
Modern metal would be Iron and later steel. Before that it was bronze during the bronze Age.
 
thegame said:
That’s right. Laptops on stage and hair ties on headstocks are not metal.
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does that scrunchy on the headstock thing do ANYTHING really? i've heard it mutes your strings a bit, but isn't that what your palm on your picking hand is for?
 
JimAnsell said:
does that scrunchy on the headstock thing do ANYTHING really? i've heard it mutes your strings a bit, but isn't that what your palm on your picking hand is for?
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If done properly it kills some of the resonance. Above the nut where most people never mute with the hands. I've had guitars where it was needed because the guitar was too bell like.
 
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