Astrobotics moon mission not going great

[Bad Brain]

Leaving the gold foil covered landing gear look as though it was just assembled? Not very convincing.

...not that the gold foil covered landing gear was convincing to begin with

 

[VonBonfire]

All the consoles on the floor of mission control were powered by a single mainframe computer that has the average computing power of a 2005 era laptop. The space ship itself had a computer roughly equivalent to a modern digital watch. About 72 kilobytes which is enough to store one of the smaller images you'd see posted at rig talk.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Leaving the gold foil covered landing gear look as though it was just assembled?

yes exactly.

 

[Bad Brain]

 

[VonBonfire]

According to Harold Loden the Apollo 11 mission controller, “The skin on the crew cabin [of the lunar module] was very thin, and that was all done because of weight savings.” Project Manager Thomas Kelly concurred, noting that “the skin, the aluminum alloy skin of the crew compartment was about 12/1000s of an inch thick. That’s equivalent to about three layers of Reynold’s Wrap that you would use in the kitchen.”

 

[Dan Gleesak]

All the consoles on the floor of mission control were powered by a single mainframe computer that has the average computing power of a 2005 era laptop. The space ship itself had a computer roughly equivalent to a modern digital watch. About 72 kilobytes which is enough to store one of the smaller images you'd see posted at rig talk.

Also correct.

 

[VonBonfire]

yes exactly.

It's not believable. Dust would be everywhere on that craft had they used a 10,000 ft lbs reverse thruster to bring it down, especially considering the weight of an astronaut, in moon gravity, left pretty hefty footprints in the lunar surface.

 

[VonBonfire]

So basically once they were in space the lunar landing module was docked on the front of the ship and functioned as a front bumper on the ride to the moon, about 230,000 miles. With it's exceedingly thin skin pushing it's way through space. Also seems not legit.

 

[Bad Brain]

Que'ed

 

[Bad Brain]

"Talk"

 

[VonBonfire]

In all, the lunar module logged about 2,000,000 miles of space flight distance and never received so much as a scratch to the aluminum foil covering, which was all that protected the astronauts from certain death, aside from the 2nd line of defense space suits, which they didn't even wear inside the module during apollo 13. Also not very legit.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

It's not believable. Dust would be everywhere on that craft had they used a 10,000 ft lbs reverse thruster to bring it down, especially considering the weight of an astronaut, in moon gravity, left pretty hefty footprints in the lunar surface.

It didn’t use 10,000lbs to land, they used it to slow down. The thrusters were also shut off before touchdown.

The moon gravity is also part of why the dust flew far away from the lander

 

[VonBonfire]

It didn’t use 10,000lbs to land, they used it to slow down. The thrusters were also shut off before touchdown.

The moon gravity is also part of why the dust flew far away from the lander

Right, down to about 3,000lbs supposedly, which considering the depth a moon boot made in the lunar dust tells me something is going to come flying back all over the landing craft. Especially considering the lightweight lunar rover kicked up dust everywhere per the driver. Dust would fly everywhere and take a very long time to settle, so the perfectly pristine just-put-the-second-coat-of-wax on look the module has is fantastical.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Right, down to about 3,000lbs supposedly, which considering the depth a moon boot made in the lunar dust tells me something is going to come flying back all over the landing craft. Especially considering the lightweight lunar rover kicked up dust everywhere per the driver. Dust would fly everywhere and take a very long time to settle, so the perfectly pristine just-put-the-second-coat-of-wax on look the module has is fantastical.

Dust would not fly everywhere, it would fly away from the thrust, which it did.
And you are right it would take longer to settle, which adds to the distance AWAY from the lander that it landed

 

[VonBonfire]

Dust would not fly everywhere, it would fly away from the thrust, which it did.
And you are right it would take longer to settle, which adds to the distance AWAY from the lander that it landed

Yes it magically landed without getting so much as a speck of dust on it. Science fiction!

 

[Bad Brain]

the perfectly pristine just-put-the-second-coat-of-wax on look the module has is fantastical

It's all fantastical.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Yes it magically landed without getting so much as a speck of dust on it. Science fiction!

not really man. You said everything correctly yourself, you just think the dust went straight up, which it did not. Other Apollo missions had harder landings and damn near buried the pads. You just chose to ignore that

 

[VonBonfire]

not really man. You said everything correctly yourself, you just think the dust went straight up, which it did not. Other Apollo missions had harder landings and damn near buried the pads. You just chose to ignore that

I don't think the dust went straight up. I just think there would have been dust all over the lander. Dust goes everywhere when you blast it with force. I'm sure there is a mathetmatical equation for it but none of those equations would have your lunar lander come out dust free.

So they damn near buried the pads on some other landings, that has nothing to do with what we are discussing which is the conflicting claims vs photo evidence.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I don't think the dust went straight up. I just think there would have been dust all over the lander. Dust goes everywhere when you blast it with force. I'm sure there is a mathetmatical equation for it but none of those equations would have your lunar lander come out dust free.

So they damn near buried the pads on some other landings, that has nothing to do with what we are discussing which is the conflicting claims vs photo evidence.

But that’s what I’m saying, the dust wouldn’t go everywhere. It would go away from the thrust which is kicking it up, i.e. sideways

 

[Bad Brain]

It's all fantastical.
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"A reel of film mistakenly released by NASA shows the Apollo astronauts faking a shot of the earth, making it appear they were half way to the moon when, in reality, they were only a couple of hundred miles up, in earth orbit."