ICE agent ambushed in Chicago, CPD order to not respond

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Aside from the usual shit pieces from the MSM on the initial event, is anyone reporting on the fact that CPD was ordered to stand down?

Initial ABC article on the initial event. If you read it, take notice how they frame everything.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/homeland-...d-chicago-despite-protests/story?id=126218735

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Video from Liberal Hivemind. Putting aside the commentary this gives undeniable evidence of what happened and CPD being ordered to stand down.

 
I'm surprised Federal officers haven't had to use deadly force before this.

Start arresting these protestors for obstruction, assault, battery, etc. Charge and indict them; if they're antifa, charge them with domestic terrorism.

Also these mayors, governors, and police chiefs need to be held accountable, there has to be some Federal charges that can be used to arrest them.
 
Serve and protect my ass.

Cops today are political pawns and not much else. I understand they need to make a living to feed their families but to be proud of being a cop today is a major fully in denial hypocritical character flaw.
 
Serve and protect my ass.

Cops today are political pawns and not much else. I understand they need to make a living to feed their families but to be proud of being a cop today is a major fully in denial hypocritical character flaw.
Do you think they enter the profession with the desire to become a political pawn?
 
Do you think they enter the profession with the desire to become a political pawn?
Of course not but as we see so many times and in so many places they are used as that and they go along with it.

Again, they need to earn a living but the pride thing should not even be a consideration anymore once they're compromised.
 
Of course not but as we see so many times and in so many places they are used as that and they go along with it.

Again, they need to earn a living but the pride thing should not even be a consideration anymore once they're compromised.
I think that's easier said than done when you're invested in a career. Believe or not, the majority of them still want to just go to work and do what's best. And depending on the size of the department the politics may not affect them. If everybody took your point of view and left, the corrupt politicians win. And that's what they want. Look at current recruiting numbers and standards. They're dismal.
 
Serve and protect my ass.

Cops today are political pawns and not much else. I understand they need to make a living to feed their families but to be proud of being a cop today is a major fully in denial hypocritical character flaw.
There are good cops, and bad cops. Just like any other profession
 
I think that's easier said than done when you're invested in a career. Believe or not, the majority of them still want to just go to work and do what's best. And depending on the size of the department the politics may not affect them. If everybody took your point of view and left, the corrupt politicians win. And that's what they want. Look at current recruiting numbers and standards. They're dismal.
I must have confused you guys as I agree with you for the most part but my point is.

When you make a decision to play along with being used as a political pawn you're no longer an honest cop upholding the actual law. I understand some will compromise themselves as they need a pay check. If they play along they shouldn't be proud to be a cop anymore because a true honest cop wouldn't compromise themselves.

They have two choices -

1) be used as a political pawn and don't uphold the law (they're 100% owned)
2) tell them to fuck off and I'm leaving the police because I have integrity and won't be used in a political agenda.

I believe it's that simple as we all have those choices, we either comply with doing the wrong thing or we don't comply no matter what industry we're in.
 
I must have confused you guys as I agree with you for the most part but my point is.

When you make a decision to play along with being used as a political pawn you're no longer an honest cop upholding the actual law. I understand some will compromise themselves as they need a pay check. If they play along they shouldn't be proud to be a cop anymore because a true honest cop wouldn't compromise themselves.

They have two choices -

1) be used as a political pawn and don't uphold the law (they're 100% owned)
2) tell them to fuck off and I'm leaving the police because I have integrity and won't be used in a political agenda.

I believe it's that simple as we all have those choices, we either comply with doing the wrong thing or we don't comply no matter what industry we're in.

Couldn't you say the same thing about any branch of the military or law enforcement. In this day & age they're all being used as pawn in some form.
 
Couldn't you say the same thing about any branch of the military or law enforcement. In this day & age they're all being used as pawn in some form.
Yes, I agree.

I guess with the police being the first point to call in a city it's more an immediate dangerous thing when they're compromised.
 
I must have confused you guys as I agree with you for the most part but my point is.

When you make a decision to play along with being used as a political pawn you're no longer an honest cop upholding the actual law. I understand some will compromise themselves as they need a pay check. If they play along they shouldn't be proud to be a cop anymore because a true honest cop wouldn't compromise themselves.

They have two choices -

1) be used as a political pawn and don't uphold the law (they're 100% owned)
2) tell them to fuck off and I'm leaving the police because I have integrity and won't be used in a political agenda.

I believe it's that simple as we all have those choices, we either comply with doing the wrong thing or we don't comply no matter what industry we're in.
They have a job to do, they want to go to work and do their job and come home to their families.
Just like every other employee on earth.
Defunding the police was not such a great idea in hindsight i guess.
Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away
 
I must have confused you guys as I agree with you for the most part but my point is.

When you make a decision to play along with being used as a political pawn you're no longer an honest cop upholding the actual law. I understand some will compromise themselves as they need a pay check. If they play along they shouldn't be proud to be a cop anymore because a true honest cop wouldn't compromise themselves.

They have two choices -

1) be used as a political pawn and don't uphold the law (they're 100% owned)
2) tell them to fuck off and I'm leaving the police because I have integrity and won't be used in a political agenda.

I believe it's that simple as we all have those choices, we either comply with doing the wrong thing or we don't comply no matter what industry we're in.
That's an awfully extreme and unrealistic example of armchair quarterbacking there, brother.
 
That's an awfully extreme and unrealistic example of armchair quarterbacking there, brother.
I can't agree as I've been in a similar situation firsthand.

As you're aware, we have choices before us every day and we alone make the decision and thereafter we own it.

I accept the majority will take the compromise but thereafter they should never forget that fact or truth or whatever somebody wants to call it.

Personal accountability is a rare action that is never to be spoken about it appears.
 
I can't agree as I've been in a similar situation firsthand.

As you're aware, we have choices before us every day and we alone make the decision and thereafter we own it.

I accept the majority will take the compromise but thereafter they should never forget that fact or truth or whatever somebody wants to call it.

Personal accountability is a rare action that is never to be spoken about it appears.
You've been in Law Enforcement?
 
As you're well aware, sharing too much personal info is never a sound choice.

Can you tell me in detail where you don't agree with what I've written?
You seem to be set on the opinion that these officers should just walk away from the job due to actions beyond their control in the name of "personal accountability". What we are seeing are policies set in motion by corrupt politicians and administrators, not boots on the ground officers. I guarantee you the majority of them don't want to be mixed up in that shit and the additional stress it causes them in addition to the job itself, is crushing. Unless you have walked in their shoes to consider the whole of the situation, your view is unrealistic.
I appreciate your concern with personal information. You are always welcome to PM me.
 
You seem to be set on the opinion that these officers should just walk away from the job due to actions beyond their control in the name of "personal accountability". What we are seeing are policies set in motion by corrupt politicians and administrators, not boots on the ground officers. I guarantee you the majority of them don't want to be mixed up in that shit and the additional stress it causes them in addition to the job itself, is crushing. Unless you have walked in their shoes to consider the whole of the situation, your view is unrealistic.
I appreciate your concern with personal information. You are always welcome to PM me.
What I've written I've actually agreed with your points and I detailed them.

It's the thereafter I'm speaking of. A quick and easy example would be look at how police managed covid in Australia with the beating of elderly people, and many others in broad daylight in front of many witnesses and putting them into a paddy wagon. We saw this on the news the world over. Should law enforcement officers have done this and would you have done it?

I want to be very clear, I'm not anti-police in the slightest but I certainly hold individuals responsible for their choices and actions as we can always say no if we really want to...can't we.

How many times are people told, if you don't like the job or agree with mgmt. you should leave it. This also equally applies to police officers and why wouldn't it.

I say again, I know many people will do as they're told no matter what as they need to feed a family but that doesn't exonerate them for their choice and actions thereafter.
 
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