Installing Grovers on a Kluson'd Les Paul

[ZEN Amps]

Talk me into it. A have a bunch of boring reasons for considering it but am more interested in the thoughts of anyone how has done it.

It's for my goldtop that is setup for lower tunings with 11-52's. Happy to enlarge the holes, guitar has already been refinned anyway.

Most importantly, what would Chad K do?

 

[bubucci]

You mean classic Grover rotomatics or Grover vintage version ? I have locking rotomatics on Heritage 80 and they work perfect.

 

[ZEN Amps]

Rotos

 

[godgrinder]

Hipshot

 

[The One]

I have never had to widen any holes to get grovers to work.

 

[Chris O]

Hipshots are my go-to. The plates eliminate needing to consider hole issues. They’re also a smoother and more accurate tuner IMO.

 

[GreatRedDragon]

I do it on all of my guitars. It's a no brainer.

 

[lespaul6]

I say get that kluson off the les paul... is it the kind that doesnt require drilling?

 

[thegame]

Most importantly, what would Chad K do?

Half-shout it in a range not exceeding 5 or 6 semitones.

 

[LP Freak]

Grovers suck, too much slop

 

[SpiderWars]

Chad K would def enlarge the hole.

 

[ZEN Amps]

It's an R8 so yep holes will need to be reamed. Cue smutty jokes...

I do it on all of my guitars. It's a no brainer.

Grovers suck, too much slop

Ok you two, there can only be one winner... and go!

 

[Rex Rocker]

I don't get the Grover hate. I prefer Gotoh, but I've never really had any problem with Grovers. They're definitely an upgrade in terms of functionality to Klusons.

Never tried Hipshots, but they've got a look. I think they're kinda ugly, personally, especially with the plates, but I'd love to give them a try.

But if you're going for best of the best, I think Gotoh 510's are it. You can order them without the ugly pear-like button too.

 

[GreatRedDragon]

Ok you two, there can only be one winner... and go!

Gotoh or Grover, to me it's six of one, half dozen of the other. I think Grovers look better and when I do lean in the direction of auto-locking tuners I think Grover's mechanism is leagues better than Gotoh's.

Either way you need to ream, and doing so doesn't bother me.

 

[napalmdeath]

It's an R8 so yep holes will need to be reamed. Cue smutty jokes...



Ok you two, there can only be one winner... and go!

Kluson Revolutions. Only correct answer. They should drop right in. Just have to get either press-in bushing type, or threaded. I'm guessing they're press-ins.

 

[The One]

I don't get the Grover hate. I prefer Gotoh, but I've never really had any problem with Grovers. They're definitely an upgrade in terms of functionality to Klusons.

Never tried Hipshots, but they've got a look. I think they're kinda ugly, personally, especially with the plates, but I'd love to give them a try.

But if you're going for best of the best, I think Gotoh 510's are it. You can order them without the ugly pear-like button too.

Hipshots are Ugly & Make almost every guitar look ugly. it's the button style they use.

 

[technomancer]

Kluson Revolutions. Only correct answer. They should drop right in. Just have to get either press-in bushing type, or threaded. I'm guessing they're press-ins.

Yep, this. The locking Klusons are great tuners.

 

[XSSIVE]

Hipshots are Ugly & Make almost every guitar look ugly. it's the button style they use.

Hipshot offers 11 different button shapes in 7 different colors and materials you can choose from when ordering tuners new or you can purchase buttons separately to change them later... https://hipshotproducts.com/collections/guitar-tuning-machines/products/guitar-tuner-buttons

 

[Jack Luminous]

Kluson Revolutions. Only correct answer. They should drop right in. Just have to get either press-in bushing type, or threaded. I'm guessing they're press-ins.

I installed those in my LP Axcess, replacing vintage style tuners. They work great.