Troll thread LOL Friedman content Too many knobs and switches

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Well -- I sold my BE-100 deluxe and might have sellers remorse but I always buy these amps and the number of knobs and dip switches eventually distracts me and pisses me off. See I'm an older dude and came from 6 knob Marshall goodness and find myself in the full amp noodle mode trying out the 10,000 combinations. It completely dsitracts me. Does anyone else suffer from this ? I've also found the same situation with modelers. I thought that amp sounded great but I found myself playing other amps more often than not.
 
Well -- I sold my BE-100 deluxe and might have sellers remorse but I always buy these amps and the number of knobs and dip switches eventually distracts me and pisses me off. See I'm an older dude and came from 6 knob Marshall goodness and find myself in the full amp noodle mode trying out the 10,000 combinations. It completely dsitracts me. Does anyone else suffer from this ? I've also found the same situation with modelers. I thought that amp sounded great but I found myself playing other amps more often than not.
I dunno..

I basically find the "sweet spot" setting of all controls and leave 'em there and just play.

ymmv
 
I see this brought up quite a bit, especially with modelers. I don’t suffer from this and I think it can generally be chalked up to not focusing on your overall goals. Once I find a tone I dig I’m good, then it’s time to do what I actually want to do with that tone which is generally writing and recording. I’m a Fractal guy and obviously the options are endless in that thing, when I first got it I spent the first couple months getting to know it inside and out and building presets and when I realized I wasn’t working on my goals, I would only allow myself to tweak on days I was mixing.

Unless a tone is absolutely driving me insane, there’s no need to turn knobs, but I suppose it’s like any other self-control thing. I definitely understand the draw to exploring more because ya might just stumble on the one setting that delivers the god tone or whatever, but still, is tone hunting the goal, or playing?

I liken the search for the perfect IR to finding the perfect porn vid; you can go through a thousand and be pretty sure you landed on the right one so just go ahead and finish and be done with it…..but what if the next vid is even better???
 
I do appreciate the Friedman amp from a channel switching perspective, it's a beast and a solid amp that takes pedals well. All the toggles and knobs are not switchable. I like the less is more approach and maybe check out what the guitar sounds like instead. I was a fanboi of the BE100, I kind of lost it tho when it decided to become more of a novelty than an iconic build such as a Slow, JMP, JCM, Plexi and tons of others. It seemed to take a dive in value for a bit , not sure why. Great amp and great support but it doesn't seem to dominate the market as it once did. Just my opinion of course, I dug it but to easy to get that sound with simpler amps and pedals
 
Well -- I sold my BE-100 deluxe and might have sellers remorse but I always buy these amps and the number of knobs and dip switches eventually distracts me and pisses me off. See I'm an older dude and came from 6 knob Marshall goodness and find myself in the full amp noodle mode trying out the 10,000 combinations. It completely dsitracts me. Does anyone else suffer from this ?
I'm the same way. At this point I'd be more than happy with a single channel medium to high gain amp that cleans up very well with the volume pot and maybe requires just the slightest push from a pedal to get the desired amount of compression/sag.
 
I set stuff up for what I want to play at that time and leave it until I want to play something else. If you only play one thing then you only need one sound. I had a Mark V and outside of fine tuning for guitar changes I basically never touched the controls unless I wanted to do something completely different.
 
When I bought my first Ecstasy I was a little overwhelmed by all the switches but after messing with it and taking the time I did find my sweet spot and I really didn't mess with it much afterwards. The switches are there for a reason they can improve tone quite a bit or just give you a different sound you might be looking for.
 
OP's describing "analysis paralysis"..

Too many choices. Eventually you just shut down and get nothing done.

Pete Thorn has a good video on how to dial in an amp, once control knob at a time. Won't link it here so this thread doesn't turn into a PT hate fest. :ROFLMAO:
 
Yep, that’s me. If there’s a bunch of bullshit on an amp to play with… I’m 100% gonna play with it and endlessly tweak. I don’t know why. I’m just a clueless monkey with a toy. Give me an 2203 so I can dime the knobs and boost it. I’m more creative with less options.
 
I'm kinda feeling like this atm. Also having too much watts for the purpose you're using the amp for kinda bothers me.
 
I dunno..

I basically find the "sweet spot" setting of all controls and leave 'em there and just play.

ymmv
The question is how long does it take you to find that "Sweet spot" , I'm still searching and I've had my amp since the early 90's.
 
The question is how long does it take you to find that "Sweet spot" , I'm still searching and I've had my amp since the early 90's.
No joke, check out that video Pete Thorn did where he dials in a JCM800.

It didn't change a lot of my settings, but it did cause me to make a couple of subtle changes, and by consequence, it makes it easier to dial in a boost pedal in front of the amp.
 
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OP's describing "analysis paralysis"..

Too many choices. Eventually you just shut down and get nothing done.

Pete Thorn has a good video on how to dial in an amp, once control knob at a time. Won't link it here so this thread doesn't turn into a PT hate fest. :ROFLMAO:
Excellent analysis . I want to play guitar and get better and not be dicking with an amp although I do have a friend that gets everything where he wants it on the amp and doesn't touch it again.
 
I also don't want to be dicking with an amp to the point of distraction. I can dial in a 6 knob Marshall under 45 seconds, push with an OD and use my guitar volume. Same with my Friedman. My Mark V is another story. Its so versatile that to set and forget it is a sin. I find the older I get the simpler I want things in life.
 
No joke, check out that video Pete Thorn did where he dials in a JCM800.

It didn't change a lot of my settings, but it did cause me to make a couple of subtle changes, and by consequence, it makes it easier to dial in a boost pedal in front of the amp.
The need for a video like this baffles me…are people that helpless they can’t figure out how to dial in a 6 knob amp ? I mean the three tone knobs don’t even really do anything anyway…
 
Even if an amp has a lot switches and options they stay where they are once I find my tone .
 
OP's describing "analysis paralysis"..

Too many choices. Eventually you just shut down and get nothing done.

Pete Thorn has a good video on how to dial in an amp, once control knob at a time. Won't link it here so this thread doesn't turn into a PT hate fest. :ROFLMAO:
Absolutely, when I had the Helix I struggled to play a whole song, spent so much time fannying around, even with my wee EVH lbx I play as much as I did back in the 80's when i was all piss and vinegar!
 
Also how many knobs you really need? I already have one attached to my body that i have to play with.
 
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