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Aynirar27 said:
I could tell it was bullshit because Oprah could never climb on to anyone’s roof.

I know probably a dozen people that swear there is a Bigfoot in our area. They all told similar stories to me at different times throughout my life. Pretty compelling
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My dad was a WW2 vet and and hunter. He said sometime in the 1950's he was out elk hunting in Wyoming with a group and swears they saw a Bigfoot up close, like 20 feet away from them. He was a no bullshit guy, and til the day he died he said it was without question it was a Bigfoot. He said it had to be 8+ feet tall and was enormous.
 
Unacceptablenorm said:
My dad was a WW2 vet and and hunter. He said sometime in the 1950's he was out elk hunting in Wyoming with a group and swears they saw a Bigfoot up close, like 20 feet away from them. He was a no bullshit guy, and til the day he died he said it was without question it was a Bigfoot. He said it had to be 8+ feet tall and was enormous.
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My area is a bit of a hotbed for ufo stories too. I heard some locals were going to be on a new episode of “unsolved mysteries” a couple years ago talking about their experiences. I had to watch to see them and the episode literally opens with an aerial view of my neighborhood. Freaked me out lol
 
denialist said:
But the point is, they could be... and that means that deception would be involved, something you seem to think humans are incapable of.
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I don’t think humans are incapable of deception. I think it happens all the time.

I just don’t think every country in the entire world are all in on a narrative to pretend that humans have been to space
 
Aynirar27 said:
I just don’t think every country in the entire world are all in on a narrative to pretend that humans have been to space
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Not every country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_space_travel_by_nationality

Interesting how the US came less than a month after USSR, right at the height of the cold war. That's some great PR! :ROFLMAO: ...But the question is, where exactly did they go, for how long and what did they do? I would never doubt that people haven't rocketed themselves way high up in the sky to the point if they didn't have life support systems, they'd die.
 
denialist said:
Interesting how the US came less than a month after USSR, right at the height of the cold war. That's some great PR! :ROFLMAO: ...But the question is, where exactly did they go, for how long and what did they do? I would never doubt that people haven't rocketed themselves way high up in the sky to the point if they didn't have life support systems, they'd die.
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The soviets beat the USA in every area of the supposed "space race" yet somehow the USA just sailed past them and made it to the moon. Typical staged, lying, fake psy-op for the American public's morale during a time when our leaders were blowing it in Vietnam and finalizing the sellout of our nation's manufacturing might. Buncha damn liars.
 
denialist said:
Not every country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_space_travel_by_nationality

Interesting how the US came less than a month after USSR, right at the height of the cold war. That's some great PR! :ROFLMAO: ...But the question is, where exactly did they go, for how long and what did they do? I would never doubt that people haven't rocketed themselves way high up in the sky to the point if they didn't have life support systems, they'd die.
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I’m not saying every country has a space program. I’m saying I can’t think of a single government saying that humans aren’t in space.
People go into space in vessels, that’s why they don’t die.
And why they come back and tell everyone about it.
Happens pretty often actually
 
VonBonfire said:
The soviets beat the USA in every area of the supposed "space race" yet somehow the USA just sailed past them and made it to the moon. Typical staged, lying, fake psy-op for the American public's morale during a time when our leaders were blowing it in Vietnam and finalizing the sellout of our nation's manufacturing might. Buncha damn liars.
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Russia put the first man in space. Was that a lie too?
 
Aynirar27 said:
People go into space in vessels, that’s why they don’t die.
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Aynirar27 said:
Russia put the first man in space. Was that a lie too?
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"Space" is like "aliens". It's a word repackaging of something that was previously called something else in order to control a narrative. "The heavens" and "spirits". Space was never a thing.

Watch the long exposure photographs of the trajectory of every "space ship" ever launched and you can see it is a long arc which leads back to earth=FAKE. You can go up 150-200,000 feet or thereabout and that's it. Deploy your weather balloons up there. Maybe keep your craft up in the sky at that altitude for a few minutes/hours using the engines. Launch your plus size Estes rocket up there, it's still not going into "space". It's just high in the atmosphere.
 
VonBonfire said:
"Space" is like "aliens". It's a word repackaging of something that was previously called something else in order to control a narrative. "The heavens" and "spirits". Space was never a thing.

Watch the long exposure photographs of the trajectory of every "space ship" ever launched and you can see it is a long arc which leads back to earth=FAKE. You can go up 150-200,000 feet or thereabout and that's it. Deploy your weather balloons up there. Maybe keep your craft up in the sky at that altitude for a few minutes/hours using the engines. Launch your plus size Estes rocket up there, it's still not going into "space". It's just high in the atmosphere.
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Good grief dude
 
Aynirar27 said:
Good grief dude
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You repeat talking points but haven't critiqued any data for yourself where you can even comment anything substantive. "Space" is fake. You got lied to. Don't be a guy who is easier to fool than it is to convince you have been fooled. They robbed you of the truth, and faith with their smooth lies. They preyed on your love for technology because it marvels you like magic. Eventually pulling a rabbit out of a hat isn't that convincing but you do you.
 
…and really, we’re not arguing that people aren’t shot high in rockets into the atmosphere, we’re questioning the true nature of “Space” and the cosmos.
 
denialist said:
…and really, we’re not arguing that people aren’t shot high in rockets into the atmosphere, we’re questioning the true nature of “Space” and the cosmos.
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Aynirar will accept whatever narrative is currently en vogue. He was a young mind that was easily molded. Compliant. Accepting. A conformist. Probably doesn't get enough red meat.
 
harddriver said:
Ask any pilot how they are taught to navigate and any artillery corp in the military how they are taught to calculate for targeting not to mention all government training manuals about air navigation and all will tell you the same thing. It's a very interesting answer to say the least....
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gimme the rundown
 
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