Cameron modded Marshall

shar-vell Dan said:
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I concur with the woofy bottom & buzz.
Your PCB standoffs are missing their nutts. Total sign of sloppy work.
Dont even know why cuz most solder connections are "tack welded" on top.
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a number of years ago I would have hammered them while listening to Goodbye Horses. A part of me looks for a solid “size 14”.
 
Bram576 said:
yeah, the same tones were used. Just double tracked lmao.

I understand every time I get a bees in a can comment it’s by guys who don’t listen to actual metal and should probably just stay on the gear page. But that’s okay. I understand why you usually only post full mixes here, because guys don’t know any different.
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Sorry man, that's bees in a can and it sounds like it's a mess. I listen to metal as well and that tone ain't cutting it. I also have tried out a bunch of mods and I know that sound and where I feel that gain is coming from. I'm sorry I didn't praise your Cameron but it isn't one of the good ones to my ear. Sd-1 and an 800 is eating that for lunch all day long.🤷
 
WizardAmpIphoneClip said:
Aight holmes
I turnt up your clip in the whip
Sounds way different than the phone
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I appreciate you going out of your way to do a proper listen. If you think it suck’s there, then respect, that’s your opinion.

@glpg80 I understand everyone absolutely has an opinion. And our discussion was totally civil and cool about it, no bad blood there man between you and I. But being total dicks about it like Dan initially was, I don’t see anything remotely wrong if I stand up for myself.

I never go out of my way to start stuff with people here, I think I’ve been here long enough that that is proven. But I’m not going to sit and be a punching bag.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Sorry man, that's bees in a can and it sounds like it's a mess. I listen to metal as well and that tone ain't cutting it. I also have tried out a bunch of mods and I know that sound and where I feel that gain is coming from. I'm sorry I didn't praise your Cameron but it isn't one of the good ones to my ear. Sd-1 and an 800 is eating that for lunch all day long.🤷
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Thanks for your input after listening on an iPhone. Let’s hear you do better.
 
To anyone it may concern I’ll say it here too. In no way am I praising Mark Cameron here, I have no idea where that came from. It’s a good amp, and it’s a jose mod… but to say his amps are god tier above anything made by Jeremy, Shea, or Dan Gower is just not true. To boot, all of those after mentioned guys are good humans.
 
Bram576 said:
Hey dudes, wound up making this one prior to going on a trip. Probably recognize it from Rezas video he did a while back. Check it out. Cheers

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hmm, listened earlier on a laptop at work, and was like wtf. Checked it out on my main machine with a moderately good sound system, and sounds great man.
 
I listened in my car and the tone wasn't my thing. How do you have it miked up? I'm not trying to be mean, it just didn't have any character to me beyond a buzzsaw sound.

I think guitars can sound good both in a mix and isolated. It's not one or the other. But a good song doesn't need very good tone, it's just a good song.
 
cardinal said:
I listened in my car and the tone wasn't my thing. How do you have it miked up? I'm not trying to be mean, it just didn't have any character to me beyond a buzzsaw sound.

I think guitars can sound good both in a mix and isolated. It's not one or the other. But a good song doesn't need very good tone, it's just a good song.
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sm57. Totally get it if it’s not your thing. I play high gain metal where if you do not use an aggressive cutting guitar tone, you will not be heard.

I agree guitars can sound good in both contexts. But that perception is up to the listener. The tones I look for even isolated are bitey, clear, without a bunch of gunk in the 300-700 hz range. Some guys think that sounds “warm” I think it sounds like ass. Everyone is different for what they may play or listen to.
 
it does have a pretty unique grind man, I can see it not being everyone's cup of tea, that's the way Cameron have always been. I had a several, did like them, but moved them on.
 
Erock said:
it does have a pretty unique grind man, I can see it not being everyone's cup of tea, that's the way Cameron have always been. I had a several, did like them, but moved them on.
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Ultimately, after trying this I wouldn’t go after a Cameron for the price they command. I would rather give Jeremy, Shea, or Dan Gower my business.

For comparison of the kinds of tones I use this is the Skelton key video I did



The pretty much exact settings I used on the demo were at 4:30. I’m not a professional by any means, but I think for an amateur that intro is a pretty decent sounding mix.
 
While some commenters have been overly negative in this discussion so far, I believe the OP may have been too sensitive to that criticism as well. In other words, he’s got exactly what it takes to be the next YT metal guitar gear star!
 
thegame said:
While some commenters have been overly negative in this discussion so far, I believe the OP may have been too sensitive to that criticism as well. In other words, he’s got exactly what it takes to be the next YT metal guitar gear star!
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I’m fine with criticism. Being a total asshole to someone you don’t know for no reason though… I’m going to stand up for myself. Especially When all I’m trying to do is show what an amp sounds like. I have no intention of being a “YouTuber”, I have a career and all that and am not by any means a pro musician. I started doing this just to show what some of these amps sound like that are “cult amps”, so it maybe helps a couple people out making a purchasing decision. When I got into boutique amps I hated how all I had to go off of was word of mouth and nothing else.
 
Bram576 said:
Thanks for your input after listening on an iPhone. Let’s hear you do better.
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Once again sorry to say, I listened on headphones. I also don't need to do better because I didn't post a clip of my Cameron.. i don't have a Cameron. As such, I can't do better can I...
 
DanTravis62 said:
Yep, that's the crux here

Lots of people are used to iPhone recordings which have an insane amount of compression to simulate the low end you hear in the room

Popular YouTube guys like Ola and Fluff combine close mics with high end ribbon and condenser mics to make a "hifi" representation of this "in the room sound" which has created one expectation of what things sound like

That sound is a completely different sound than the actual sound that is on tape in all the recordings everyone tries to emulate.

Even shit like Pantera or Master of Puppets sounds unbelievably thin to people nowadays if you listen to a single rhythm guitar track.

Part of the magic of creating super low end heavy metal rhythm tracks is multi tracking tons of times. Because the low end isn't additive, it's exponentially additive.

That's why shit that sounds "huge" on records is rather disappointing by itself, and why certain tones are "impossible" to recreate.

People like amp chaser chase the EVH tone but they aren't chasing the studio gear that actually creates the sound theyre hearing. They don't understand that you start out with a "thin" sound and then it melds with the mix/bass to become the "big" sound you hear in the final product
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I dunno. There are many different tones out there. Hetfield, specifically has a very full range guitar tone, which is a nightmare to control in a mix…
 
Tone Monster said:
I dunno. There are many different tones out there. Hetfield, specifically has a very full range guitar tone, which is a nightmare to control in a mix…
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Nope, not really. Listen to this on good speakers. It has a scooped midrange, but most of the low end is scooped out too.

Even if you crank up a subwoofer there's barely a rumble, and this is all the rhythm guitar not a single track.

 
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