Odyssey is Yngwies peak

[Chubtone]

1987 my guitar teacher told me to buy Yngwie, so I bought Trilogy. He told me, no, you need to buy Rising Force, so I bought that a few weeks later.

 

[Techdeth]

I think Vescera is a great vocalist

Me too

I first saw Yngwie when he was in Steeler at the Pomona Valley Auditorium in the Fall1983, I think? Then got the Steeler album. It was jaw-dropping and crazy! Made me go back to the woodshed for sure....

I later got the Rising Force and Alcatrazz albums....

I loved his playing, but I wish he would have branched out musically like Tony MacAlpine and others...

88- 92 I think he branched out a lot . Just never got the hit

 

[Techdeth]

No I think he peaked as a player on fire and ice

I’m listening to all in order . I do think it’s his peak now . The production is his best and his playing is killer . I guess because teaser was gay in my head I was thinking the album was all poppy . Relistened . I guess I have to say you were right

 

[DanTravis62]

Me too

88- 92 I think he branched out a lot . Just never got the hit

I’m listening to all in order . I do think it’s his peak now . The production is his best and his playing is killer . I guess because teaser was gay in my head I was thinking the album was all poppy . Relistened . I guess I have to say you were right

Yep. He came back after the accident meaner than ever. He just didn't have the same mainstream success

 

[Techdeth]

Yep. He came back after the accident meaner than ever. He just didn't have the same mainstream success

Listen to never die off seventh sign . Good song but he’s sure no phrasing lol starlight straightening no looking backb

 

[Techdeth]

True.. Ratt's first albums is weak, Too Fast for Love sort of " cool" but the Scorps were bringing it and Schenker def was with MSG. Dio era Rainbow too I think no? There was some great stuff out. But you are right, Steelers wasnt drastically worse than a lot of what their peers put out.

Yngwie does write a lot of simple dumb riffs at times . It’s weird given his skill set . Steeler riffs are generic af

 

[shredhead7]

Yngwie does write a lot of simple dumb riffs at times . It’s weird given his skill set . Steeler riffs are generic af

Steeler was written and played by Ron. Yngwie only played the solos and a few selected parts (the intro to No way out, as an example).

 

[Techdeth]

Steeler was written and played by Ron. Yngwie only played the solos and a few selected parts (the intro to No way out, as an example).

Dud not know that . I just know I shocked thining ynqwie played these riffs

 

[thegame]

Nonsense. Yngwie's peak was about 260 lbs

 

[Chubtone]

Yngwie does write a lot of simple dumb riffs at times . It’s weird given his skill set . Steeler riffs are generic af

What year did you first listen to Steeler?

 

[Techdeth]

What year did you first listen to Steeler?

I heard it after finding his solo albums . To me it was generic af . But that’s just me

 

[shredhead7]

I heard it after finding his solo albums . To me it was generic af . But that’s just me

It wasn't lighting the world on fire as far as the songs, that is true. If it did, it would be Too Fast for Love level notoriety. But, it did light the guitar world on fire as everybody went, wtf? and ran back home to practice.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

How about the fact the Yngwie is clearly on Ozempic? Dude has gone to skinny body, big hands, big head. Hope this does not affect his fury? At this point, not sure much can. That guy knows one speed... overdrive. Good time for this mess of a song ( with drum machine and some cool parts)

 

[Chubtone]

I heard it after finding his solo albums . To me it was generic af . But that’s just me

The important thing is what year was that? 89? 91? 94? 2001?

Many things become "generic" years and years after they came out. At that time, 1983 there was not much going on at all in heavy music. Ozzy, Priest, Maiden, Scorps, AC/DC, Black Sabbath. A bunch of new stuff was about to hit and the scene was going to explode. Steeler was in there recording their first album the same time, Dio, Crue, Ratt, Quiet Riot, Metallica and many others were all recording their first albums too. You ever hear Metal Massacre II, III and IV from around that same time? A lot of pretty awful stuff... but for the time? Was Steeler a great album song-wise and riff wise? No, but it wasn't "generic"... yet.

Clapton on Crossroads was groundbreaking in 1968. 10 years later every lick on there had been done 10,000,000 times by every guitarist who followed. In the late 70's, EVH was talking about how he knew the solo to Crossroads note for note and my thought was BFD with those generic licks. The problem was I was too young to experience the evolution of guitar playing chronologically. I had no perspective on what had happened in the late 60's and early to mid 70's. For me to assert myself in a conversation about that, especially while surrounded by those who had lived it and played guitar and been in bands through it? I'm not saying people can't comment on music they didn't experience in period. I'm just saying when the WWII vets walk in the room, maybe their take on war shouldn't be dismissed so easily and talked over. And I'm not saying you personally did that, because I don't think you did.

What you are seeing repeatedly in this thread, by the guys who came through that era and experienced it all chronologically, is mentions of Alcatrazz and the first couple solo albums as being definitive Yngwie. No one except serious guitar players had any idea who Yngwie even was until maybe Trilogy or Odyssey so we are all mentioning his best stuff was before his height of popularity.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

The important thing is what year was that? 89? 91? 94? 2001?

Many things become "generic" years and years after they came out. At that time, 1983 there was not much going on at all in heavy music. Ozzy, Priest, Maiden, Scorps, AC/DC, Black Sabbath. A bunch of new stuff was about to hit and the scene was going to explode. Steeler was in there recording their first album the same time, Dio, Crue, Ratt, Quiet Riot, Metallica and many others were all recording their first albums too. You ever hear Metal Massacre II, III and IV from around that same time? A lot of pretty awful stuff... but for the time? Was Steeler a great album song-wise and riff wise? No, but it wasn't "generic"... yet.

Clapton on Crossroads was groundbreaking in 1968. 10 years later every lick on there had been done 10,000,000 times by every guitarist who followed. In the late 70's, EVH was talking about how he knew the solo to Crossroads note for note and my thought was BFD with those generic licks. The problem was I was too young to experience the evolution of guitar playing chronologically. I had no perspective on what had happened in the late 60's and early to mid 70's. For me to assert myself in a conversation about that, especially while surrounded by those who had lived it and played guitar and been in bands through it? I'm not saying people can't comment on music they didn't experience in period. I'm just saying when the WWII vets walk in the room, maybe their take on war shouldn't be dismissed so easily and talked over. And I'm not saying you personally did that, because I don't think you did.

What you are seeing repeatedly in this thread, by the guys who came through that era and experienced it all chronologically, is mentions of Alcatrazz and the first couple solo albums as being definitive Yngwie. No one except serious guitar players had any idea who Yngwie even was until maybe Trilogy or Odyssey so we are all mentioning his best stuff was before his height of popularity.

I wouldn't say best if you are saying Alcatrazz was well above Rising Force and Marching Out. I say they are all on par lead wise. But for sure Steeler fits in with it's time. YJM is simply awesome no matter how you put it. The nickname "Maestro" fits.

 

[Chubtone]

I wouldn't say best if you are saying Alcatrazz was well above Rising Force and Marching Out. I say they are all on par lead wise. But for sure Steeler fits in with it's time. YJM is simply awesome no matter how you put it. The nickname "Maestro" fits.

I said earlier in the thread Steeler through Marching Out. Definitive Yngwie to me. Now I own everything through Facing the Animal but I never pull out anything past Trilogy for a listen. I pulled out Odyssey and Fire and Ice because of this thread but they didn't move the needle, at all.

 

[Techdeth]

I said earlier in the thread Steeler through Marching Out. Definitive Yngwie to me. Now I own everything through Facing the Animal but I never pull out anything past Trilogy for a listen. I pulled out Odyssey and Fire and Ice because of this thread but they didn't move the needle, at all.

Fire and ice is sounds major inspired. I still did that one a lot .

 

[mentoneman]

The important thing is what year was that? 89? 91? 94? 2001?

Many things become "generic" years and years after they came out. At that time, 1983 there was not much going on at all in heavy music. Ozzy, Priest, Maiden, Scorps, AC/DC, Black Sabbath. A bunch of new stuff was about to hit and the scene was going to explode. Steeler was in there recording their first album the same time, Dio, Crue, Ratt, Quiet Riot, Metallica and many others were all recording their first albums too. You ever hear Metal Massacre II, III and IV from around that same time? A lot of pretty awful stuff... but for the time? Was Steeler a great album song-wise and riff wise? No, but it wasn't "generic"... yet.

Clapton on Crossroads was groundbreaking in 1968. 10 years later every lick on there had been done 10,000,000 times by every guitarist who followed. In the late 70's, EVH was talking about how he knew the solo to Crossroads note for note and my thought was BFD with those generic licks. The problem was I was too young to experience the evolution of guitar playing chronologically. I had no perspective on what had happened in the late 60's and early to mid 70's. For me to assert myself in a conversation about that, especially while surrounded by those who had lived it and played guitar and been in bands through it? I'm not saying people can't comment on music they didn't experience in period. I'm just saying when the WWII vets walk in the room, maybe their take on war shouldn't be dismissed so easily and talked over. And I'm not saying you personally did that, because I don't think you did.

What you are seeing repeatedly in this thread, by the guys who came through that era and experienced it all chronologically, is mentions of Alcatrazz and the first couple solo albums as being definitive Yngwie. No one except serious guitar players had any idea who Yngwie even was until maybe Trilogy or Odyssey so we are all mentioning his best stuff was before his height of popularity.

bingo bro bro.

i had such a great intro to the yjm. our local hawaii rock station 98 Rock had a new metal hour and they played steeler hot on your heels one night and it dropped me. my friend happened to record the show and burned me a cassette copy.
caught the bus down to the local record shop and nabbed the only copy of steeler they had.

then in 84 graham bonnett stopped by 98 Rock to do an interview which i just by chance happened to be listening to that day, and he world premiered his new band Alcatrazz’s single “Island In the Sun” raving about his new gtr player whom the host remembered from playing the Steeler record live and how the switchboards lit up that day.

bonnett said they were coming to play in concert later that year at the university of hawaii ballroom and i was front and center for that show!

then i moved to fullerton for college that fall and saw yngwie with rising force in 85, front and center at pomona valley auditorium where i believe @Fusionbear also saw him that night. yngwie was like a wild animal unleashed after thankfully breaking away from james dean yodelayheehoo ethel mermon nonsense and the potsy ralph malph chachi oompa band.

moshed to front row again for marching out tour opening for dio in hawaii, and saw him
open for acdc at long beach arena on trilogy tour.

after that tour and the car accident he lost his ear for tone and playing didn’t seem to evolve. same old runs only sloppier and the self produced/mixes thing suuuucked.

i saw him one last time in the doughnut years and it was like watching elvis’s last concert.

 

[Telesavales]

Agreed!

 

[franko5150]

I was fortunate enough to see Yngwie live during the Trilogy tour & the Odyssey tour. As a guitar player it was devastating to watch him live & up close (within 15 ft). I was practicing 6 to 8 hours a day trying to learn his stuff note for note & he comes on stage & does the opening lick to Far Beyond the Sun behind his back. It was nuts.
In either case I enjoyed the Alcatrazz, Rising Force, Marching OUt & Trilogy era most. Odyssey to me was kind of lame. The guitar tone was very different, I didn't care for it. I did purchase Eclipse & Inspiration (which I love!), & I also bought one of the CDs with Ripper Owens. I would say Trilogy was his peak.