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I like slanted cabs...I like the sound dispersion
 
I prefer slants and put something over the top speakers (I use those Mitchell Donut things). The sound from straight cabs just varies too much for me. Not just on vs. off axis, but distance too. Slants seem more even and so easier to dial in the amp.
 
Supposedly straight cabs have more bass. And EVH cabs are only straight. Maybe for that reason. I prefer slant to get the speakers pointing at me a little. Assuming only one cab is being used.
 
Just use a FULL stack, problem solved.
Doesn't take any more real estate on stage, looks WAY better than a half stack, and you will be able to hear yourself.
This doesn't mean you need to be super loud, but slant or straight cab pointing at the back of my legs simply doesn't work as well and I can't hear as well.

Sound men usually have an initial reaction, "OMG he's gonna be loud." However it's about hearing yourself and being able to move a bit and not lose the sound.
Anyway, of course that's my opinion and what I choose.

If you are dead set on a half stack, then you can always tilt it a bit, but that defeats the purpose of the cab being on the floor for bass response.
I love my Diezel's...again, I'm running a V30's bottom cab and a K100's top cab. Best of both worlds IMO.
Good Luck
 
Marshall 1960-straight, but they are actually at an angle and they hit the audience better and the sound wont hit you right in the head.
 
Straight cab. Lay the baffle board back on an angle. :yes:
 
Loudness250":1ahxe4lv said:
Marshall 1960-straight, but they are actually at an angle and they hit the audience better and the sound wont hit you right in the head.
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But isn't the cab hitting the audience right in the head? At least the slant gets you too, so you can dial in the treble accordingly?
 
cardinal":2hg1k16d said:
Loudness250":2hg1k16d said:
Marshall 1960-straight, but they are actually at an angle and they hit the audience better and the sound wont hit you right in the head.
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But isn't the cab hitting the audience right in the head? At least the slant gets you too, so you can dial in the treble accordingly?
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You can just lean over and listen to hear it. but you don't have the speaker beaming you right in the head for the whole show. The angled cab hits the audience too because of the bottom 2 speakers. lol, I like the straight cabs.
 
Yeah, there's no right or wrong. But I always figure the slant gets both me and the audience, so I'm more careful not to fry either of our ears.
 
cardinal":3hsx7ys8 said:
Yeah, there's no right or wrong. But I always figure the slant gets both me and the audience, so I'm more careful not to fry either of our ears.
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Agreed. Personal preference mainly.

However, it is still true that if you dial the amp based on what you hear reflected toward you while standing, then the direct sound may be altered in a way that isn't pleasing. Like the old addage, "what sounds good in the room may not sound good on tape." The best thing to do is to kneel down in front of the cab and dial the amp with your ears in line with the speakers. Especially if your cab is miked. Think about it. The front row will be hearing what comes out of the bottom speakers of the cab. The mic is hearing what is coming directly from the speakers. The back row will be hearing what is coming out of the mic. Only YOU will be hearing what comes out of the top 2 speakers if you choose an angled cab and dial it based on what YOU hear.
 
I only like mesa slants with v30's. With an sm57 straight on dead center always results in great recorded tone with no guesswork. The angle of the top speaker along with the proximity effect/bleed of the other speakers is a very cool sweet spot.
 
Only straight cabs for me. I prefer the fact they are directional.
 
Taken from Joe in a User Review...

Bang on !!!! :thumbsup:


Well after having my new Bogner 4x12 I reviewed here for a while, I decided to get another cabinet for recording purposes. Since my studio is in my basement and the air conditioning does not work down there, I bought a second Bogner 4x12. The problem is, since it is so hot in the basement in summer, we run a bunch of fans. The mics pick up the fan noise and make a wooshing noise. So I got a second Bogner 4x12 to put in another room to record with. So I play and use the original cabinet so I can hear myself and use the second cabinet to record with. HERE IS THE PROBLEM...I purchased a slant cabinet the first time, figuring it was the thing to do. Then when I went to get a second cabinet, they only had straight cabinets in stock. Since I liked the look of the slant better, I was disappointed, but figured who cares, it is a recording cabinet. The sales person told me that a straight cabinet sounds fuller and would record better anyway, since it would not have the ""phase cancellization problems"" slant cabinets create. So I bought the straight cabinet. Well I got home and hooked it up, to my disappointment, IT SOUNDS A LOT BETTER, than my slant cabinet does. The bummer is, I ordered my slant cabinet in a custom color, so I got it now for better or worse. The straight cabinet is much fuller and does not have the upper midrange dominance the slant seems to possess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj_WHO7lROg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehhlyd55ShY


In the end, I guess it's all subjective, but I prefer straight, 1000% !!!
 
Straight

I prefer the sound hitting my legs rather than my face.
 
SQUAREHEAD":yrlid4ji said:
Taken from Joe in a User Review...

Bang on !!!! :thumbsup:


Well after having my new Bogner 4x12 I reviewed here for a while, I decided to get another cabinet for recording purposes. Since my studio is in my basement and the air conditioning does not work down there, I bought a second Bogner 4x12. The problem is, since it is so hot in the basement in summer, we run a bunch of fans. The mics pick up the fan noise and make a wooshing noise. So I got a second Bogner 4x12 to put in another room to record with. So I play and use the original cabinet so I can hear myself and use the second cabinet to record with. HERE IS THE PROBLEM...I purchased a slant cabinet the first time, figuring it was the thing to do. Then when I went to get a second cabinet, they only had straight cabinets in stock. Since I liked the look of the slant better, I was disappointed, but figured who cares, it is a recording cabinet. The sales person told me that a straight cabinet sounds fuller and would record better anyway, since it would not have the ""phase cancellization problems"" slant cabinets create. So I bought the straight cabinet. Well I got home and hooked it up, to my disappointment, IT SOUNDS A LOT BETTER, than my slant cabinet does. The bummer is, I ordered my slant cabinet in a custom color, so I got it now for better or worse. The straight cabinet is much fuller and does not have the upper midrange dominance the slant seems to possess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj_WHO7lROg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehhlyd55ShY


In the end, I guess it's all subjective, but I prefer straight, 1000% !!!
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I've always liked B cabs just because I think they look cooler...and Eric Johnson said they sound better. :D But that video imo doesn't really convince me just because all 4 cabs sound very different and it sounds like there's a ton of speaker differences and possibly mic placement differences. And in some segments the B cabs sound terrible. Regarding the physics of it; seems with guitar many of the things that are considered standard good practice in HiFi are exactly what we guitar players don't want. Like resonance in a speaker cab, HiFi would make it out of marble if they could (I know some have marble bases). We are creating a tone where HiFi is trying to accurately reproduce sound.

One of these days I'll do a test with same speakers and fixed mic placement. That would be a real pita but then and only then will I really know.
 
Hey guys, yes, tone is subjective... For me, personally, I couldn't even imagine how someone would choose a slant, after A/B 'ing a straight / slant with the SAME speakers. I mean "the exact same speakers)
There is definitely no "wrong answer" here though.
Good news is, The rest of the world, at least 99.999% of them, will NEVER notice any difference at the weekend gig, that's for sure!! :D :lol: :LOL:
 
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