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What's the deal with available factory mods? Do they really change the original tone/response of the amp when they are off or it's a myth?
Is it possible to add these mods to a pre-owned SLO?
Is Avenger really the same thing as ch2 SLO or there are differences?
Do SLOs have external bias points by any chance?
What cabs/speakers do these amps like/dislike?
Anyone running dual rig with Diezels? :D How is that working out?
 
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:rock: Good luck hunting!
 
Don't have the mods, so I don't know about tone change - but I recommend no mods. But I believe Mike would mod a preowned for you. Only real question I can comment on is the Diezel. I have owned 7 Diezels and I think they are different enough that a 2 amp rig would work well. Just depends on what you like. I like the Soldanos better, hense no more Diezels.
 
Alright Mr. nbarts. As you may recall I have been through a Diezel Einstein, Herbert and I prefer to use matching cabs. I used the Einy for a good year in the bars and clubs in this armpit of the world. Great, great amps..but there is a certain sweetness I crave that the Diezels trade in for pure kick in the chest heaviness. I have a '94 SLO halfstack that any other amp that has been through here just can't seem to match...close, but this thing kills me. No external bias.

I love the matching cab with the x12000 speakers or whatever he used back then in the cab. This is key...the amp sounds way to harsh through a bogner 4x12 with v30's although my bog is newish..same for Diezel cabs, Mojave cabs, Orange cabs, Hiwatt etc. I had a new SLO with mods and I didn't love it like this one. I don't think you need them at all, but I am a classic rock, metal almost 40 guy.
This amp running with Diezels would sound great. Thats all I have, best of luck!
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nbarts":18wdrdz3 said:
What's the deal with available factory mods? Do they really change the original tone/response of the amp when they are off or it's a myth?
Is it possible to add these mods to a pre-owned SLO?
Is Avenger really the same thing as ch2 SLO or there are differences?
Do SLOs have external bias points by any chance?
What cabs/speakers do these amps like/dislike?
Anyone running dual rig with Diezels? :D How is that working out?
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The SLO has a lifetime transferable warrenty.

Soldano considers itself a custom shop I think so I'm sure they add mods at any point.

The SLO does not have external bias points.

Go here http://www.soldano.com/ and check out the FAQ
 
The Avenger is apparently the lead channel circuit lifted out of the SLO. However, the avenger uses different transformers (mercury magnetics, I believe) than the SLO (which uses custom hi-fi DeYoung transformers).

IMO, you aren't getting the full bug unless you get the SLO. The lone exception is the dude
on here that has an Avenger with the SLO transformers in it.
 
I've had 2 SLO's plus an Avenger with the DeYoung trannies - they are not the same.

The Avenger was great but was more low mid focused then the SLO, and much more compressed. You hit a wall of compression at a certain gain level on that amp and need a boost to push it over the cliff. That being said it sounded great boosted. I did find it had a high end frequency spike that I couldn't dial out though.

The SLO is more open feeling, has a lot more gain, is more touch sensitive and more complex. I don't think it's quite as tight in the low end though.

Also, everyone who says the SLO needs to be cranked to sound good - I don't find that at all. Sure it will sound better cranked, just like every other tube amp. But just like most other modern high gain amps, it sounds great at low volumes too.
 
nbarts":2m1e3osv said:
VoodooChild24":2m1e3osv said:
No shit!!!

Why can't I like something that is not worth a mortgage??!!!
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No worries man. I suffer the same symptoms. Let me know if you've found a cure. :thumbsup:
 
Any opinions about mods changing the amp? I would really prefer the flexibility. For instance midcut on Herbert comes very handy for tracking. I mean I want the SLO mostly for great solos & early crunch, but having another kick ass metal amp wouldn't hurt either, especially since I'll be ditching the Uberschall for it if I like the SLO.


I have a '94 SLO halfstack that any other amp that has been through here just can't seem to match...close, but this thing kills me.
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I haven't been this excited about an amp since the day I played the Herbert, actually I haven't really been excited about any amp since then. I haven't even played the Soldano yet, but every clip I hear of it just kills me, be it blues, rock, metal or anything.
 
nbarts":3ir3uzyf said:
I haven't been this excited about an amp since the day I played the Herbert, actually I haven't really been excited about any amp since then. I haven't even played the Soldano yet, but every clip I hear of it just kills me, be it blues, rock, metal or anything.
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Ha--wait until you play a SLO for the first time. It's almost a religious experience.

The first one I ever played had the depth knob on it and it was cranked to about 3 o'clock.

I cranked the gain/master and it was almost like the "Back to the Future" scene where the dude gets thrown back 10 feet!
 
Well the Warren Haynes mod cuts treble on the lead channel but only when the gain is below 3-4, I forget which. I never had any use for that and havent heard it. There is also the SRV (AKA Scoop) mod, which a switch that scoops the mids, but I think its only active on the normal channel. I havent heard that either, but people have said it sounds good. I am in the minority of people though who actually think the SLO normal channel (in clean mode) sounds better than people give it credit for. Its hardly bad when compared to something like the clean channel on an Uberschall. Its totally usable.

The only mod I have experience with is the Depth mod and I highly recommend it. You dont need it if playing with the master on 5 or above because thats where the amp really opens up, but at that volume you are knocking down walls. I just couldnt get the amp that loud at any gigs without the soundguy throwing a fit and when playing at a lower volume the Depth mod noticably fills out the tone. Its pretty night and day actually.
 
Mine had the Warren, SRV and Depth mods, and the depth mod, The Warren mod was useless, the SRV mod made the clean channel sound better, and the depth mod was good, but not necessary IMHO. You may want it though since you're used to the low end of the Herbert.

I liked it best with greenbacks, but I like every thing with greenbacks so that doesn't mean much. LOL
 
I had a 2005 with the depth mod before and I like not loved the amp, I didn't have the matching cab though...The SLO doesn't sound as good through other cabs and vice versa IMO. The Herbert is crazy good, it's crushing. Blues, classic rock, VH thats the SLO. It's not about the low end. It sounds like the best old juiced-up Marshall with 2(3) channels and a loop.

nbarts":7i9ofpev said:
Any opinions about mods changing the amp? I would really prefer the flexibility. For instance midcut on Herbert comes very handy for tracking. I mean I want the SLO mostly for great solos & early crunch, but having another kick ass metal amp wouldn't hurt either, especially since I'll be ditching the Uberschall for it if I like the SLO.


I have a '94 SLO halfstack that any other amp that has been through here just can't seem to match...close, but this thing kills me.
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I haven't been this excited about an amp since the day I played the Herbert, actually I haven't really been excited about any amp since then. I haven't even played the Soldano yet, but every clip I hear of it just kills me, be it blues, rock, metal or anything.
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zuel69":3jioakg4 said:
It sounds like the best old juiced-up Marshall with 2(3) channels and a loop.
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I agree with you except the part about the SLO having a loop. Mine was useless.
 
I have a couple SLO's

1. with Depth and Haynes Mods and one that is stock.

The Haynes Mod is really only in play on the crunch channel with the gain on 4 or lower. I dont think it is really worth it unless you play low gain allot but who the hell does that with a SLO :confused:

The Depth Mod is worth it as the SLO is naturally very bright and the depth mod really adds some ass to the bottom especially at less than nuclear war volumes.

YMMV
 
Yea but with an h&k replex you can adjust the levels so there is no tone change. I use a gsystem as well..same thing. Can't use certain pedals is all.


EWSEthan":3isc0g48 said:
zuel69":3isc0g48 said:
It sounds like the best old juiced-up Marshall with 2(3) channels and a loop.
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I agree with you except the part about the SLO having a loop. Mine was useless.
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Thanks!

Hopefully the last question:

What are these so called Soldano speakers? Are these a copy of something else with Soldano name on them? Who can compare them to something more popular?
 
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