1pc roasted birdseye necks from musikraft?

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does anyone here own one? i saw that SAH5150 had a questionable experience with his (that ultimately seems to have worked out), but trying to get a sense of their relative stability vs. that of say straight-grained, non-torrified rock maple (particularly in humid NYC summers)
 
TWPietz37":3jsfmt7x said:
does anyone here own one? i saw that SAH5150 had a questionable experience with his (that ultimately seems to have worked out), but trying to get a sense of their relative stability vs. that of say straight-grained, non-torrified rock maple (particularly in humid NYC summers)
I think mine was twisted before they even roasted it. The warpedneck.com guys made it perfect and it never moved after that. The roasted birdseye should be MORE stable than straight grained, non roasted because they are effectively taking all the moisture out of the wood. I never had a problem with anything from Musikraft before, so I see no reason not to go for it. The only reason I didn't address the issue with Musikraft is that I didn't build the guitar right after getting the neck. By the time the body was painted/relic'd it was 4 months later. Seemed like a big uphill battle to go back to Musikraft at that point, so I just sent it to warpedneck.com and had them fix it for $75 or whatever they charge...

Steve
 
maple with any figure will not be more stable than no figure... there is a reason Tom Anderson wont use birdseye.
 
dpeterson":3c2g2t6p said:
maple with any figure will not be more stable than no figure... there is a reason Tom Anderson wont use birdseye.

I think u missed the ROASTED Birdseye vs NON ROASTED no figure maple
 
messenger":2bykwlkr said:
dpeterson":2bykwlkr said:
maple with any figure will not be more stable than no figure... there is a reason Tom Anderson wont use birdseye.

I think u missed the ROASTED Birdseye vs NON ROASTED no figure maple
Yes, he clearly missed the distinction...

Steve
 
dpeterson":13tw4kkc said:
maple with any figure will not be more stable than no figure... there is a reason Tom Anderson wont use birdseye.
bs if its properly dried and has the right moisture content before its milled (and kept that way) its fine , obviously if its straight grain you have a better chance but birdseye isnt that bad really...
 
sah5150":2o9djrvq said:
TWPietz37":2o9djrvq said:
does anyone here own one? i saw that SAH5150 had a questionable experience with his (that ultimately seems to have worked out), but trying to get a sense of their relative stability vs. that of say straight-grained, non-torrified rock maple (particularly in humid NYC summers)
I think mine was twisted before they even roasted it. The warpedneck.com guys made it perfect and it never moved after that. The roasted birdseye should be MORE stable than straight grained, non roasted because they are effectively taking all the moisture out of the wood. I never had a problem with anything from Musikraft before, so I see no reason not to go for it. The only reason I didn't address the issue with Musikraft is that I didn't build the guitar right after getting the neck. By the time the body was painted/relic'd it was 4 months later. Seemed like a big uphill battle to go back to Musikraft at that point, so I just sent it to warpedneck.com and had them fix it for $75 or whatever they charge...

Steve
I'm pretty sure the raw lumber is roasted before they make the neck blanks and then the final product. BTW, 4 months on a manufacturing defect should be returnable. If it isn't then I wouldn't want to deal with that company...
 
I had fret ends sprout on a musikraft neck after a year and they offered to fix the issue no charge. So i wouldn't be surprised if they did fix the issue for Steve if he had asked them.
 
If you're worried about stability, get the 2 piece neck with quarter sawn maple neck and a Birdseye fretboard. I went with that option years ago and my neck was rock solid, I was very pleased. I called them a bunch before I ordered, spoke to them for nearly an hour about fret finishing, their process and other bologna. Very nice people, would order a neck from them if I ever needed one. I went with the 4A Birdseye option.

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dpeterson":3r7uk54a said:
maple with any figure will not be more stable than no figure... there is a reason Tom Anderson wont use birdseye.


not applicable to roasted necks.

I've head this claim before ans not entirely sure of its origin or if valid but I orded sever premium birdseye necks wot zero issues. I have flame necks, zero issues. The are plenty of guitars thta are 20-30 years old with birdseye necks that are perfectly fine today
 
I have two roasted figured one piece necks (one flame one birdseye) from Musikraft. I keep the guitars uncased sitting in my living room near a window. They never move, shift, or warp really. I did have an issue where one of the neck bolt screw holes was maybe a little misaligned, or not drilled deep enough so i kept having tuning issues and neck shifting away from the body until I doweled and redrilled the hole. Other than that everything was fine. You may need a neck shim if you do pick one up, my necks were a little shallow in the neck pocket of the MJT bodies I used.
 
Have a usa charvel san dimas 1 with birdseye neck from 95-96 that I bought new when it came out....it hasn't even had to be adjusted in years, much less have any warpage....rock solid and beautiful!
 
sah5150":36s409uk said:
TWPietz37":36s409uk said:
does anyone here own one? i saw that SAH5150 had a questionable experience with his (that ultimately seems to have worked out), but trying to get a sense of their relative stability vs. that of say straight-grained, non-torrified rock maple (particularly in humid NYC summers)
I think mine was twisted before they even roasted it. The warpedneck.com guys made it perfect and it never moved after that. The roasted birdseye should be MORE stable than straight grained, non roasted because they are effectively taking all the moisture out of the wood. I never had a problem with anything from Musikraft before, so I see no reason not to go for it. The only reason I didn't address the issue with Musikraft is that I didn't build the guitar right after getting the neck. By the time the body was painted/relic'd it was 4 months later. Seemed like a big uphill battle to go back to Musikraft at that point, so I just sent it to warpedneck.com and had them fix it for $75 or whatever they charge...

Steve

thanks for clarifying, steve. i noticed from another post of yours that you opted for the 'private reserve' grade of birdseye. to your recollection, is this equivalent to the 'premium 4a' option listed on their order form, or was it a limited stock of higher-grade wood that they no longer offer?
 
vultures":3mtjrfxt said:
If you're worried about stability, get the 2 piece neck with quarter sawn maple neck and a Birdseye fretboard. I went with that option years ago and my neck was rock solid, I was very pleased. I called them a bunch before I ordered, spoke to them for nearly an hour about fret finishing, their process and other bologna. Very nice people, would order a neck from them if I ever needed one. I went with the 4A Birdseye option.

_MG_6643.jpg

That looks pretty sharp!
 
TWPietz37":26q1mn19 said:
sah5150":26q1mn19 said:
TWPietz37":26q1mn19 said:
does anyone here own one? i saw that SAH5150 had a questionable experience with his (that ultimately seems to have worked out), but trying to get a sense of their relative stability vs. that of say straight-grained, non-torrified rock maple (particularly in humid NYC summers)
I think mine was twisted before they even roasted it. The warpedneck.com guys made it perfect and it never moved after that. The roasted birdseye should be MORE stable than straight grained, non roasted because they are effectively taking all the moisture out of the wood. I never had a problem with anything from Musikraft before, so I see no reason not to go for it. The only reason I didn't address the issue with Musikraft is that I didn't build the guitar right after getting the neck. By the time the body was painted/relic'd it was 4 months later. Seemed like a big uphill battle to go back to Musikraft at that point, so I just sent it to warpedneck.com and had them fix it for $75 or whatever they charge...

Steve

thanks for clarifying, steve. i noticed from another post of yours that you opted for the 'private reserve' grade of birdseye. to your recollection, is this equivalent to the 'premium 4a' option listed on their order form, or was it a limited stock of higher-grade wood that they no longer offer?
This was 5A - you have to call them and they'll tell you the upcharge for it. It's not on the normal menu - just call and they'll tell you how to order it and how much more it is.

Steve
 
rcm78":3konzdpx said:
sah5150":3konzdpx said:
TWPietz37":3konzdpx said:
does anyone here own one? i saw that SAH5150 had a questionable experience with his (that ultimately seems to have worked out), but trying to get a sense of their relative stability vs. that of say straight-grained, non-torrified rock maple (particularly in humid NYC summers)
I think mine was twisted before they even roasted it. The warpedneck.com guys made it perfect and it never moved after that. The roasted birdseye should be MORE stable than straight grained, non roasted because they are effectively taking all the moisture out of the wood. I never had a problem with anything from Musikraft before, so I see no reason not to go for it. The only reason I didn't address the issue with Musikraft is that I didn't build the guitar right after getting the neck. By the time the body was painted/relic'd it was 4 months later. Seemed like a big uphill battle to go back to Musikraft at that point, so I just sent it to warpedneck.com and had them fix it for $75 or whatever they charge...

Steve
I'm pretty sure the raw lumber is roasted before they make the neck blanks and then the final product. BTW, 4 months on a manufacturing defect should be returnable. If it isn't then I wouldn't want to deal with that company...
You could be right - I have no idea the process steps for the roasted necks. I'm sure it was returnable, I just didn't because the neck had been with the guy who finished the body and installed the headstock decal for that time - who knows what happened to it? I just didn't feel like trying to explain the situation and the neck was beautiful - it was worth the $75 to me for it to just be fixed with no hassle.

Steve
 

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