2x12 for a MarkIV

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I'm wondering now if it's even worth getting a 2x12. I could just use my current 4x12 with the 2x12 combo amp sitting on top of it, plus the two amp heads. But I'm concerned about the stack being piled too high and prone to falling over.
 
My vote, Mesa 2x12

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^ What speakers do you have in that cab?

I had a metal grill 212 cab just like that with 2 MC90's. The top portion was opened. I vastly preferred my Mesa boogie halfback 412 with 2 MC90's and 2 EVM12L's (both sections sealed). The Mesa halfback 212 with MC90's was disappointing, always wondered if I would have liked it better with an EVM12L in the bottom section....
 
dfrattaroli":27r1cfl4 said:
I've used a number of 2x12s with my Mark IV and they were all excellent. Right now I'm using this PC OS 2x12 and really love how open it is.

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Is that a regular size Port City 2x12 next to the OS 2x12? If so how would you compare their tone? I'm stuck between the OS and regular.
 
blackba":2si9k10l said:
^ What speakers do you have in that cab?

I had a metal grill 212 cab just like that with 2 MC90's. The top portion was opened. I vastly preferred my Mesa boogie halfback 412 with 2 MC90's and 2 EVM12L's (both sections sealed). The Mesa halfback 212 with MC90's was disappointing, always wondered if I would have liked it better with an EVM12L in the bottom section....
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I thought they came with an EV in the bottom??
 
gibson08":2bczjfyl said:
blackba":2bczjfyl said:
^ What speakers do you have in that cab?

I had a metal grill 212 cab just like that with 2 MC90's. The top portion was opened. I vastly preferred my Mesa boogie halfback 412 with 2 MC90's and 2 EVM12L's (both sections sealed). The Mesa halfback 212 with MC90's was disappointing, always wondered if I would have liked it better with an EVM12L in the bottom section....
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I thought they came with an EV in the bottom??
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They came in a number of configurations. I have seen them with 2 MC90's or with 1 MC90 on the top and and EVM-12L in the bottom. Not sure if the 212's also came with any eminence speakers like the MS-12.

I bought mine used and it had 2 G12T-75's (not a good speaker to match with the mark IV). I put in 2 MC90's, should have put in an EV in the bottom. What made me sell my halfback 212 was that it didn't sound as good as the 412 by a good deal, yet was still pretty darn heavy. Unlike my halfback 412 which worked with well with all my amps, the halfback 212 with 2 MC90's only worked with a few amps, the mark IVA was one of them. For someone looking for a lighter weight cab, the halfback 212 is not a good option.
 
Greeting,

I'm new to this forum and wanted to jump on this thread as I'm in the same scenario - trying to find a 2 x 12 for my Mark IV B short head. Right now all I have is 1 Mesa Thiele 1 X 12 loaded with a C90. It sounds great but I just got the Mark IV last April and this is all I have used. I am close to buying a Recto 2 x 12 but this thread is making me re-consider. Before heading towards a Recto 2 x 12 I was just thinking of getting another Thiele C90 and running 2 of them? From what I am reading it sounds like these Thiele Cabs (or c90's ) might be better suited for the Mark IV - as opposed to a Recto with V30's. Obviously to each his own...

PeteJt - Are you not wanting V30's cause they are not as tight and punchy?

Not to hijack this thread but I am new to this is a sense....new to matching speakers to my liking.

Thanks!
 
j-mo":cjp29pi0 said:
Greeting,

I'm new to this forum and wanted to jump on this thread as I'm in the same scenario - trying to find a 2 x 12 for my Mark IV B short head. Right now all I have is 1 Mesa Thiele 1 X 12 loaded with a C90. It sounds great but I just got the Mark IV last April and this is all I have used. I am close to buying a Recto 2 x 12 but this thread is making me re-consider. Before heading towards a Recto 2 x 12 I was just thinking of getting another Thiele C90 and running 2 of them? From what I am reading it sounds like these Thiele Cabs (or c90's ) might be better suited for the Mark IV - as opposed to a Recto with V30's. Obviously to each his own...

PeteJt - Are you not wanting V30's cause they are not as tight and punchy?

Not to hijack this thread but I am new to this is a sense....new to matching speakers to my liking.

Thanks!
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I highly recommend getting an EVM-12L for your mesa Thiele 112. I have used a friends Thiele 112 cab with an EV and was really pleased with that cab.
 
j-mo":10wphett said:
Greeting,

I'm new to this forum and wanted to jump on this thread as I'm in the same scenario - trying to find a 2 x 12 for my Mark IV B short head. Right now all I have is 1 Mesa Thiele 1 X 12 loaded with a C90. It sounds great but I just got the Mark IV last April and this is all I have used. I am close to buying a Recto 2 x 12 but this thread is making me re-consider. Before heading towards a Recto 2 x 12 I was just thinking of getting another Thiele C90 and running 2 of them? From what I am reading it sounds like these Thiele Cabs (or c90's ) might be better suited for the Mark IV - as opposed to a Recto with V30's. Obviously to each his own...

PeteJt - Are you not wanting V30's cause they are not as tight and punchy?

Not to hijack this thread but I am new to this is a sense....new to matching speakers to my liking.

Thanks!
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I have a Mark V that I run in Mark IV mode, but I also have a MC90 loaded Thiele, MC90 loaded 1x12 openback, and a V30 loaded Recto 2x12.

The MC90 loaded cabs are more articulate and clearer sounding. They have more highs, more lows and more midrange. They are much faster reacting.

The Recto 2x12 is a darker, smoother sounding cab. It has far less top end sizzle, de-emphasises the pick attack, and although the V30s produces less bottom end than the MC-90s the Recto cab produces more bottom end than the Thiele does. It's also a little slower in response, which gives a slightly bigger feel to the notes/chords.

I generally prefer the Recto 2x12 for when I need a thicker, beefier rock sound or a darker metal sound. I prefer the MC-90s for when I want a more cutting tone. I also like mixing the MC-90 loaded open back 1x12 with the Recto cab as they compliment each other really well.
 
Haha, now I'm considering to get TWO 2x12 cabs, and put them either side of my 4x12 cab. I've got a crazy wet/dry idea.......

Would be nice if I can trade in my Stiletto cab for the two. It's still in really good nick.
 
j-mo":kf3gcx58 said:
Greeting,

I'm new to this forum and wanted to jump on this thread as I'm in the same scenario - trying to find a 2 x 12 for my Mark IV B short head. Right now all I have is 1 Mesa Thiele 1 X 12 loaded with a C90. It sounds great but I just got the Mark IV last April and this is all I have used. I am close to buying a Recto 2 x 12 but this thread is making me re-consider. Before heading towards a Recto 2 x 12 I was just thinking of getting another Thiele C90 and running 2 of them? From what I am reading it sounds like these Thiele Cabs (or c90's ) might be better suited for the Mark IV - as opposed to a Recto with V30's. Obviously to each his own...

Not to hijack this thread but I am new to this is a sense....new to matching speakers to my liking.

Thanks!
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No worries mate, I hope my thread helps you out. It's only hijacking when it's spam.

j-mo":kf3gcx58 said:
PeteJt - Are you not wanting V30's cause they are not as tight and punchy?
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No way! They are really punchy and tight! I used to love them...but since using Black Shadows speakers and Electro Voice, I much prefer them as they have a really deep rich sound. The V30s sound harsh and and 'spiky' in comparison.
 
guitarobert":33divoem said:
Is that a regular size Port City 2x12 next to the OS 2x12? If so how would you compare their tone? I'm stuck between the OS and regular.
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Those are OS 1x12s next to the OS 2x12. The standard 2x12 is the same height as the OS 1x12 so you have an idea of the height difference.
 
I have a Mark V that I run in Mark IV mode, but I also have a MC90 loaded Thiele, MC90 loaded 1x12 openback, and a V30 loaded Recto 2x12.

The MC90 loaded cabs are more articulate and clearer sounding. They have more highs, more lows and more midrange. They are much faster reacting.

The Recto 2x12 is a darker, smoother sounding cab. It has far less top end sizzle, de-emphasises the pick attack, and although the V30s produces less bottom end than the MC-90s the Recto cab produces more bottom end than the Thiele does. It's also a little slower in response, which gives a slightly bigger feel to the notes/chords.

I generally prefer the Recto 2x12 for when I need a thicker, beefier rock sound or a darker metal sound. I prefer the MC-90s for when I want a more cutting tone. I also like mixing the MC-90 loaded open back 1x12 with the Recto cab as they compliment each other really well.
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Great info, thanks! I think I will try the Recto 2 x 12 after all. You articulated the Thiele really well (top-end sizzle, pick attack etc). I am digging it, just looking for something a little beefier.
 
I use a Port City 2x12 Wave cabinet with my Mark V and it sounds great! I originally had a Mesa 2x12 Recto cab, but I'm MUCH happier with the PC cab. :rock:

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