2xThe Governor&2xG12K-100 for 5150,what do you think?

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Now I'm using custom V12 In krank cab. But what do you think about matching gevernors with g12K?Meyby some v12 with governor?How close is governor to V30? I dislike V30 but meyby governor dont have this awfull highs when amp is cranked.
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What do you want to achieve ?

For me Governor is just the failed copy of the V30, very dry to my ears. I prefer V30 and if this speaker is really broken in - perfect speaker.

Have you ever tried V30 and GT75 ? I tried this and V30 with K100 and i like it. Very punchy , clean sound. But I played though marshall cab in X-pattern (? I don't remember exact model, buddy just messed a bit with speaker - probably MF). Unfortunately I have never played Krank cabs , they are probably little different ( made of solid wood).

You should try WGS Veteran(another V30 clone). Someone from this forum did a good test ( V30 vs WGS Veteran).
 
I had a pair of govenor's and hated them, they sounded ok in the room but were impossible to mic up for whatever reason. After I got them and started reading some more I found that to be most people's beef. I would try the WGS veteran's or the Hellatone's that Avatar sells which are a beefed up v30 that is broken in. Bye the way I did have a 5150 at the time with the goveror's and thought the v30's were a better match and I dislike those speakers with every other head I have ever had.
 
2xG12K-100 in a 5150 combo I had, loved them but thought they were dark to my ears.

I will never stray away from V30's again, other than evm12l classic's in a 1-1 or x pattern with V30's. I like clarity, and those two together are my favorite.
 
I can't speak for the governors i never tried them. But the K100 sound great with the 5150 alone the problem is that they won't cut in a band situation. I mix them in a X pattern with V30's and it sound very good. If your problem is that you find V30's too bright. Don't spend money on speakers for nothing. Go to a music store who sell Mesa stuff and try the Traditional (Stiletto) cab 4x12 with your 5150, it has V30's but it's their own specs and it sound darker alot like the K100 but less lower bass and more low mids. Then if you like it sell your other cab. This cab is a perfect match with the 5150, believe me i had the same problem than you until i found this.
 
well i just put my eye and keyboard on the WGS Veteran, its seems to be one of solutions. Ive been start searching.
Problem with stiletto, is they are god damn expensive,even used. But they sound very decent though.

Well, the thing is, my pal has 1960BV, and he cut thru better, but I had Orange with V30 and I decided to never go back to them since they made pain in my ears with harsh needle they produce. But I need somehow not get lost with my friends 1960BV.
I played thru GT75,good,but not good enough.
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Metal1977":3fj7suz5 said:
I can't speak for the governors i never tried them. But the K100 sound great with the 5150 alone the problem is that they won't cut in a band situation. I mix them in a X pattern with V30's and it sound very good. If your problem is that you find V30's too bright. Don't spend money on speakers for nothing. Go to a music store who sell Mesa stuff and try the Traditional (Stiletto) cab 4x12 with your 5150, it has V30's but it's their own specs and it sound darker alot like the K100 but less lower bass and more low mids. Then if you like it sell your other cab. This cab is a perfect match with the 5150, believe me i had the same problem than you until i found this.
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Stachu":fhjtcflc said:
Well, the thing is, my pal has 1960BV, and he cut thru better, but I had Orange with V30 and I decided to never go back to them since they made pain in my ears with harsh needle they produce. But I need somehow not get lost with my friends 1960BV.
I played thru GT75,good,but not good enough.
"high powered greenback" - Scumbag?
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Not knowing what type of music, amps and tuning you and your buddy are playing, I kind of think your gonna have a bit of a hard time cutting through against V30s without using V30s yourself. Fight fire with fire.... :D
 
Governors are great speakers, and i like them more than V30's, BUT they're gonna have more highs and are way louder than V30's.
 
We both use 5150 and our tuning is C#. Music is something like Machine Head,Gojira.. some groove metal,heavy and not to fast.

So governors are out. Alone K100 are out. Ok.
 
Stachu":3dt0vw68 said:
So governors are out. Alone K100 are out. Ok.
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You have to remember using the highs from your amp and using highs from speakers (v30's upper mid boost) PLUS your amp will give you a totally different feel (cut thru).
EVM12L's are great too, don't forget about them.
 
Where are you from? Mesa are not that expensive used in north america. If your in europe Engl Pro 4x12 (V30's) is the Metal cab to get since it's german made should be cheaper there and it cuts like no other but it's not harsh, i had a 2x12 that i loved but sold it because i wanted a 4x12 and got a great deal on the Mesa. I heard great things about the Diezel V30's cabs but never played one. I think you just have to try different brands of V30's cab if you don't want the same thing then your buddy, alot has to do with the construction of the cab and if your speakers are well broken. Good broken in V30's cab are not supposed to sound harsh. Nothing will cut as much as V30's so like Bubbastain said you should fight fire with fire!
 
The V12 you have is a great speaker. The awful highs you are hearing is attributed to the Krank cab. Mine does something weird to the highs too when pushed.
It has something to do with the cab itself. It's oversized and very big sounding, so when pushed hard it gets overwhelmed. That's why Krank ported the cab. But the high end is still weird at high volume. I wouldn't say awful.....but thats not saying you are wrong either.

The V12's are also front loaded. The sound is hard to describe for me. It's kind of hollow and thick at the same time.
I want to rearload the V12s in my Krank cab, but it's tough because the ends are all soldered and there are 6-8 screws with bolts per speaker. So its working both sides of the cab/baffle with very little speaker wire length for room too. It's a bit of a project.

I would also open your cab and check for dampening fabric inside. I found some in my Krank cab so took it out and the cab sounds better without it.

If you want to mix with the V12, get Vintage 30's.
They pair up nicely.
-Tight lows, smooth treble and nice low mids from the V12's
-Fat lows, sizzling treble and upper mid cut from the Vintage 30's.
 
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