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Fordman65

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Whenever he does it while using Gary Moore's 'Greeny' it makes me cringe even worse.

Total waste of an iconic guitar and killer sounding Les Paul.
Would love to know how playing it in front of millions of fans every year is a waste. I mean hell, a dentist could have bought it to hang on the wall. Or maybe it would have been better to be owned by a red neck hillbilly, playing it in his double-wide?
 

Donnie B.

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Would love to know how playing it in front of millions of fans every year is a waste. I mean hell, a dentist could have bought it to hang on the wall. Or maybe it would have been better to be owned by a red neck hillbilly, playing it in his double-wide?

Waste in that he hides the thing behind crappy tone and too much wah.
Cool it's getting played for sure but ya gotta admit someone like Joe Bonamassa would put it to better use.
 

Philhouse

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It is good to see it get used and not stuck in a display case in some Bankers mansion, but it's a bit of waste as Donnie said drenched in his current tone. It's like drowning a Wagyu steak with a cup of ketchup. It would be nicer to hear it in the studio with some nice gear to really hear it's tone.
 

controlled_voltage

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i lost interest after the abysmal ajfa came out.
What a dis that album was to a true fan boi.
They even made a video after swearing that they wouldn't.

We had free front row tickets to a black tour arena show and walked out 30 minutes in and i don't regret it.
For me there are 2 metallicas.

The cliff version and the post cliff corporate version.

I was lucky to see them in a tiny club [the rising sun in yonkers] with raven on the kill em all for one tour and helped them load in.
yes i am old
James is tall and had an aggro attitude, kirk and cliff were total burnouts in a great way and Lars.....was lars - Mr hyper business hype man.
Even back then he was the band's biggest fan.
Without his hyper kinetic energy they never would have succeeded on the scale that they did?
It's his band and that's why they are stuck with his shitty drum skills.

At the Rising Sun gig they were beyond incendiary and there only about 50 people there. Raven was almost as good.
Cliff was shirtless in the denim uniform rolling his eyes back into his head while he thrashed, smoke machine blasting, Kirk with the white dress shirt on and a double flying V attack second to none.
What a night for a 15 year old me.I had fake id and looked older than i was due to my Italian heritage [facial hair and tall]
It was hot as fuck as the club's ac was not good.

YONKERS, NEW YORK, UNITED STATES

RISING SUN / JULY 29, 1983​

SETLIST​


i then saw them twice on RTL and hung out with them again.
first show at the Mid Hudson civic center with Metal Church who kicked ass and made me a fan

We hung out with them at the red roof in
James was again angry.
He was in a room with a groupie and she came out afterwards saying he couldn't get it up.
true story
Also some some poor bastard was outside with us while his GF was getting fucked by Kirk.

So it was me, my best metal pal from HS ,the cuck boyfriend and cliff smoking a fatty.
We also were passing around a bottle of Smirnoff which was later signed by cliff and kirk.
My buddy had a small walkman size tape recorder and recorded our smoking sesh with cliff.
He still has the tape....somewhere.

Cliff was wearing the dark blue walmart snorkel parka and spoke exactly like jeff spiccoli.

My pal had a denim jacket airbrushed with the monster from the jump in the fire ep and James perked up when he saw it.
"look at this shit!!!! holding it up and walking around the parking lot with it
Everyone except lars signed that jacket with a white oversized graffiti sharpie and he still has it.

POUGHKEEPSIE, NEW YORK, UNITED STATES

MID-HUDSON CIVIC CENTER / NOVEMBER 28, 1986​

SETLIST​

ENCORE​

ENCORE #2​

3-4 months later we went to L'amours in Brooklyn where they headlined.
It was one of THE BEST shows I've ever seen.

SETLIST​

ENCORE​



I could keep typing more details but by now you've got the point.
Back then I was too young to notice kirk's wah abuse and at that point it worked, for the music.

Same with lars, we didn't realize he sucked because at that point he was a decent drummer.
I think by AJFA he totally fell apart and it was obvious that he was not a natural musician or a drummer with a real pocket who took his job seriously. He was a great schmoozer and an intrepid business man which was essential for them blowing up like they did so they could puke out half baked albums that didn't retain the youthful dark twisted fire that put them on the map in the first place.
By that point Slayer had dropped Reign in blood and we knew who owned the metal drum throne from that point forward.
DAVE LOMBARDO.

It's hard to stay relevant with all that money and the machine that surrounds it when you've bottled lightning.
Kirk and James were hard core drug and alcohol addicts and to this day James still has issues large enough that they cancelled tours.
Kirk was roaming around the crowd at the Mid Hudson Civic show and came up to us and said
yo dudes, got any hard drugs"?
He remembered us from the rising sun gig,
We had a big bag of weed and offered him some but he declined as he wanted pills and powders,

He did sign my ticket stud and told us where they were staying after the show.
It is amazing that they were able to hold it together this long.
I contest that Cliff never would have let them get away with any of the crap they put out after his tragic demise as he was highly respected in that band and was quality control, knew music theory and was a renegade that had true metal from the bay area running thru his veins like Kirk.

Kirk is an easy target but don't forget he was playing a V in exodus in 79-80 doing priest and maiden covers AND TAUGHT GARY HOLT HOW TO PLAY GUITAR
He is core and as real as it gets.

Then there were the 2 times we met and hung out with Megadeth at small clubs back in the day.........................but i'll leave that for another time.
 
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controlled_voltage

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this show was a few weeks after the Yonkers show and it's how I like to remember them : Lou Reed, haircuts, makeup, rehab, tour therapists, french kisses, load artwork, and Lady gaga aside.THANK SATAN THEY FILMED THIS SHIT!!!

GIVE ME ALCOHOLICA!!!
MUYA A DREAM THAT DIED!!! :ROFLMAO: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

 

Donnie B.

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How rock and roll would it have been if Kirk had used the same guitar after it had gotten yanked
out of his hands and wrestled around the crowd for a bit. Love the quick roadie action.

cued up

 

Fordman65

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this show was a few weeks after the Yonkers show and it's how I like to remember them : Lou Reed, haircuts, makeup, rehab, tour therapists, french kisses, load artwork, and Lady gaga aside.THANK SATAN THEY FILMED THIS SHIT!!!

GIVE ME ALCOHOLICA!!!
MUYA A DREAM THAT DIED!!! :ROFLMAO: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:


Cool stories bro. My takeaway

In 86 they put on a show that was one of the best you've ever seen. Considering only 4 band members, Lars made up 25% of that "best show ever", but by '88 when AJFA came out, just two years later mind you, he had completely fallen apart and sucked. Ok. o_O

You remember a story about James having a limp dick from 40 years ago.... Not weird/creepy at all.:poop:

We get it, you wish they were still that drug induced, alcoholic band, that you could help load/unload their gear into a broken down white panel van and be buds with. Considering they're now pushing 60, if they still needed help unloading their van, I don't think they'd exist as a band anymore. Hell, one or two of them might already be dead.

Maybe MUYA is a dream that died. If it did, it happened many decades ago. Why, why, why the continual reflection in the mirror? Life's too short, move on already.
 

riffsfordaze

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Meanwhile back at camp kiddie rock...

Robert Trujillo must have Suicidal's, How will I laugh tomorrow when I can't even smile today, on infinite repeat.

Thought he got handed the keys to drive a black on black 1969 Boss 429 not a fuckin rooster pecker pink pinto
 
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riffsfordaze

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And if pintos are your thing wear it loud and proud. I'll keep an eye out for those Hannah Montana and Goo Gone shirts in the pit at the next "metal" show
 

controlled_voltage

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Cool stories bro. My takeaway

In 86 they put on a show that was one of the best you've ever seen. Considering only 4 band members, Lars made up 25% of that "best show ever", but by '88 when AJFA came out, just two years later mind you, he had completely fallen apart and sucked. Ok. o_O

You remember a story about James having a limp dick from 40 years ago.... Not weird/creepy at all.:poop:

We get it, you wish they were still that drug induced, alcoholic band, that you could help load/unload their gear into a broken down white panel van and be buds with. Considering they're now pushing 60, if they still needed help unloading their van, I don't think they'd exist as a band anymore. Hell, one or two of them might already be dead.

Maybe MUYA is a dream that died. If it did, it happened many decades ago. Why, why, why the continual reflection in the mirror? Life's too short, move on already.
you stay in your lane with the black album, load, reload, hardwired and the power ballads for FM clear channel etc,
sounds like you're a little butt hurt booger?
i'm reporting what i witnessed
creepy?
that's your interpretation
Go ahead and enjoy your load dude!
enjoy! i promise i won't stop you.
i'm good with what I know i lived thru and lucky enough to see the pure unadulterated shit
thanks
oh and yeah there plenty of bands from that era that started at the same time that actually got better and still kick fucking ass without much compromise or therapists and a cheese laden hype machine.
death angel
possessed
exodus
suicidal
testament
overkill etc
 
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Fordman65

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you stay in your lane with the black album, load, reload, hardwired and the power ballads for FM clear channel etc,
sounds like you're a little butt hurt booger?
i'm reporting what i witnessed
creepy?
that's your interpretation
Go ahead and enjoy your load dude!
enjoy! i promise i won't stop you.
i'm good with what I know i lived thru and lucky enough to see the pure unadulterated shit
thanks
oh and yeah there plenty of bands from that era that started at the same time that actually got better and still kick fucking ass without much compromise or therapists and a cheese laden hype machine.
death angel
possessed
exodus
suicidal
testament
overkill etc

I still love those old pre-91 albums. Some of my all time favorites. What I'm saying is I've accepted that they evolved into something more mainstream and in fact, I appreciate that evolution, so they're not making the same damn record over and over. Of the bands you mentioned, I too like Overkill. Very tight and thrashy, but you could listen to a song of theirs from 2019 and swear they put it out in 1985. If their musical prowess was at it's high point back then and they've been riding that wave ever since. Good for them.
 
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stanbog

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I see Testament has been mentioned a couple of times and this made me think: I love their music up to Low. I know that The Gathering is considered a milestone album by many, but it does nothing for me. I was so happy when Skolnick rejoined and was waiting for some killer albums... Unfotunately, no matter how hard I try, the newer albums are just blah. I mean it's all solid playing, but it just fails to impress me or to become memorable.

Now compare to Metallica, I love some of the newer songs. Fixxxer, My Apocalypse, Now Thay We're Dead, Halo on Fire, just to name a few. Of course this is not Disposable Heroes, but it's memorable and I enjoy it.

Just reflecting, sorry for time wasting.
 
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