According to this, the guitar body's wood is irrelevant...

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I saw the cement guitar with Piezo pickup on Strat-Talk and thought it sounded like crap.
 
tjon":1m00sfi3 said:
The cement tele with the filtertron, and its not even a real filtertron.

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wow, I thought this actually sounds pretty good considering
 
too long; didn't read version:

'omg i'm a masters student, which makes me qualified to express an opinion as fact on the internet, and all you tone whores are less intelligent than i am.'

:gethim:
 
I'll be honest, I can't feel or hear a 1500 dollar difference between some American custom shops, and mass produced Korean/Chinese guitars. I don't know if tht has anything to do with wood, but past a price point, there does seem to be finishing returns on how much guitar you get per dollar.
 
The devil is in the details. He said he tested the guitars plucking one string. The different harmonic content of different wood types would come from one type of wood accentuating certain resonating frequencies in a group of notes, versus another type wood potentially dampening those same frequencies. To me it's a very narrow, flawed experiment.
 
mboogman":15muhk4j said:
The devil is in the details. He said he tested the guitars plucking one string. The different harmonic content of different wood types would come from one type of wood accentuating certain resonating frequencies in a group of notes, versus another type wood potentially dampening those same frequencies. To me it's a very narrow, flawed experiment.
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Not to mention only 7 guitars used, pretty small sample size and we have no idea what they were or what pickups are in them.

Anyone who has played guitar for a while will recognize that there is variation in tone just from the same model of guitar in a given year. And also I hear plenty of differences just between my MIM strat made of poplar compared to my 2 Alder MIA strats.

I hope the person doing the study isn't going to try to ban the use of wood in guitars after his flawed research study.... :gethim:
 
Well I did have a $400 Ibanez that sounded better than a $2400 Suhr. :confused:
 
I would not say irrelevant, I swapped strat necks with bodies 4 times, the neck is around 65-80 percent ;) of the sound, the neck dominates the body....

A thin poly finish vs nitro does not make a relevant difference, tried it on a warmoth body.

Mostly custom shop strats are better, probably they select the necks by knocking the wood, they also feature other trems, also important the trem and saddles look for steel, my favorite: callaham with raw vintage saddles and 5 springs.

Kai
 
i like how everyone "hears" with their eyes.

take a blindfold test and see how well your blacked out eyes like the sound of basswood, or alder, or suhr, or lotus for that matter.

you'd be surprised.

kinda the same as the bass tourney guys fishing better with 10 300$ rods on the boat, while loading the livewell all day with dinks...

and the guys with ugly sticks and kids with snoopy rods are setting line class records nearly on a monthly basis.

sorry, but, value is what i look for, not overpriced corksniffery.
 
From a sheer science point of view - that being a metal string creating flux over a magnet with coils, ya, wood should have no say in the matter. And I came into the world of electric guitars with this notion set in stone and was proven wrong time and time again... It still baffles me, as a metal string shouldn't convey any of its post angle design constitution, but it does. And further to that, what sound is created from within the wood body or reflected off the wood body (and finish type for that matter) all have sonic qualities that are quite noticeable and unique.

Weird.
 
I definatly think that wood type and grade factor in with how a guitar sounds, maybe not as much as some guys think though. I think other factors have more to do with sound such as who assembles the guitar , who sets it up, type parts used. Pickups and string type have a pretty big influence on sound. I don't think that a person who doesn't play should be conducting these tests though.
 
He's got it all wrong. You don't look at the notes; you look in between the notes!

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I'm not sure I buy the theory that the wood type doesn't matter. But I will offer up my tone epiphany..

I recently replaced the electronics inside a Schecter Diamond Series guitar from the 90s. The guitar never sounded great. It was their entry-mid level guitar. Diamond Series, was their version of epiphone/squier in the Schecter world.

Pickups remained the same but I replace the tone/volume pots and tone caps, along with the wiring. I think it cost me around $15 total including inflated GC prices for the pots. The caps were nothing special, but they were a different value from what originally came in the guitar. I googled what capacitance should be used for humbuckers and saw it was different from what the guitar came with. So I went with google's wisdom.

Holy crap. Just by changing the pots/caps the guitar sounds phenomenal. Now, it didn't have crappy pickups. They were a "real" (as opposed to "Duncan Designed") set of SD 59/Custom. But the guitar never sounded good. It was always dead and flat. Now it sounds almost as good as one that cost me $2000.

So, I don't know whether or not wood matters. But pots and caps do matter. And it's a cheap fix. Also note that the cap value originally used was not in the range recommended by SD (nor did it match what google searches turned up recommendations for).

The main reason I did this was that I was going to put the guitar on ebay and the pots had become a bit scratchy over time. Now I'm hanging onto the guitar!

Gut your guitars..!
 
Ventura":3atngvqt said:
From a sheer science point of view - that being a metal string creating flux over a magnet with coils, ya, wood should have no say in the matter. And I came into the world of electric guitars with this notion set in stone and was proven wrong time and time again... It still baffles me, as a metal string shouldn't convey any of its post angle design constitution, but it does. And further to that, what sound is created from within the wood body or reflected off the wood body (and finish type for that matter) all have sonic qualities that are quite noticeable and unique.

Weird.
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resonance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw
 
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