Alice in Chains, Jerry Cantrell Rig tour, stolen EVH MM...

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Looks like he also recovered his EVH gold top Music Man. :rock:





Jerry with Dave Friedman:



Signal pedal chain:




Jerry recovered his gold top EVH Music Man Eddie had given him back in the early 90's. I remember always trying to find a gold top for a reasonable price for myself over the years but they were always insane money. I had wondered when Jerry's stolen one would come up for sale since they were so rare...





Also in the first video Jerry mentions a modded Marshall he used that he wanted to buy and that it had recently come up for sale and it was too much money for him but he doesn't mention Ronnie Champagne or the Snorkler? Is this the amp he is talking about? Anyone know? I am confused by his remarks as to which Marshall he is referring to? :confused:

He mentions bryan carlstrom but as far as I know he didn't have any Bogner modded Marshalls, he did have tons of recording gear like mic pres, reverb units etc, but don't recall him having a bunch of amps that were modded but maybe he did? :confused:

By the way I thought it wasn't that great of a rig rundown, I had so many more questions for him and would have showed off the guitars more. Also I would have clarified which amp he wa talking about regarding the modded Marshall. Interviewer just says 2203 which he never used. :no:
 
I read the title and thought to myself, how in the hell does Jerry's tour rig get stolen? Guess I should pay attention to the comma's!
 
I thought I read sometime ago that after Facelift Jerry had a few Marshalls modded by Bogner to try and capture that 4010 Snorkler tone but they never got there.
But you are definitely more knowledgeable with this subject than I.
 
fek":1v78bk2n said:
I read the title and thought to myself, how in the hell does Jerry's tour rig get stolen? Guess I should pay attention to the comma's!
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My grammar is still atrocious, I had been drinking last night with little sleep so I can barely read this being somewhat sober now. :lol: :LOL:

Glad you at least understood it... :lol: :LOL:
 
Racerxrated":2mgtccwq said:
I thought I read sometime ago that after Facelift Jerry had a few Marshalls modded by Bogner to try and capture that 4010 Snorkler tone but they never got there.
But you are definitely more knowledgeable with this subject than I.
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Layne and Jerry had a few modded Marshalls by Reinhold but none were that special. They did keep going back to the Fish with the modded Shark channel when the original Snorkler or Ronnie C was not available.

I hope Ronnie C. is reading this, I have been trying to E-mail him but his Mr.C E-mail he posted a few years ago is no longer working. :cry:
 
The "Snorkler" is one of those amps associated with Jerry, but there's many others he's used much more. It was used for leads and overdubs as far as "Facelift" went, but that was about it. It's not on any other AIC recordings to my knowledge.

I had an identically modded "Snorkler" that belonged to Lon Cohen. It was a '78 Marshall that Reinhold personally modded for Lon when they were both at Andy Brauer Studio Rentals in the 80s. It's also the same as the original white Marshall he first brought into the shop (which I believe EVH ended up buying). No blue boards and that jazz. An actual modification directly onto the amp. It was a cool amp, but definitely wasn't "Facelift" (rhythm). That apparently requires an old Tube Driver, a Fender Bassman, and a truck ton of compression.
 
NewWorldMan":297ba18e said:
The "Snorkler" is one of those amps associated with Jerry, but there's many others he's used much more. It was used for leads and overdubs as far as "Facelift" went, but that was about it. It's not on any other AIC recordings to my knowledge.

I had an identically modded "Snorkler" that belonged to Lon Cohen. It was a '78 Marshall that Reinhold personally modded for Lon when they were both at Andy Brauer Studio Rentals in the 80s. It's also the same as the original white Marshall he first brought into the shop (which I believe EVH ended up buying). No blue boards and that jazz. An actual modification directly onto the amp. It was a cool amp, but definitely wasn't "Facelift" (rhythm). That apparently requires an old Tube Driver, a Fender Bassman, and a truck ton of compression.
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In the book Alice in Chains in the studio when Jerry first played the Snorkler he flipped and said "That is exactly the sound!" and that became the sound on Facelift. Usually we would do two rythem tracks for each song...

Link to that exact quote here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ymocm ... ne&f=false


The blue board Bogner mods are key to achieving a great sound because the amps are better layed out. I have had the "snorkler" mod done ptp in other amps and none touch my blue board JCM800 50 watt that was done by Reinhold.
 
I'm relaying what was told to me directly by Ronnie about the rhythms on "Facelift"...

Tube Driver -> Fender -> EVM 1X12

The "Snorkler" occasionally doubled a rhythm track, though with a Tele using a milder setting.

Jerry also said a Mesa Dual Rectifier was used on "Dirt", but Dave Jerden said that wasn't true.
 
EXPcustom":g74mmdaf said:
NewWorldMan":g74mmdaf said:
The "Snorkler" is one of those amps associated with Jerry, but there's many others he's used much more. It was used for leads and overdubs as far as "Facelift" went, but that was about it. It's not on any other AIC recordings to my knowledge.

I had an identically modded "Snorkler" that belonged to Lon Cohen. It was a '78 Marshall that Reinhold personally modded for Lon when they were both at Andy Brauer Studio Rentals in the 80s. It's also the same as the original white Marshall he first brought into the shop (which I believe EVH ended up buying). No blue boards and that jazz. An actual modification directly onto the amp. It was a cool amp, but definitely wasn't "Facelift" (rhythm). That apparently requires an old Tube Driver, a Fender Bassman, and a truck ton of compression.
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In the book Alice in Chains in the studio when Jerry first played the Snorkler he flipped and said "That is exactly the sound!" and that became the sound on Facelift. Usually we would do two rythem tracks for each song...

Link to that exact quote here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ymocm ... ne&f=false


The blue board Bogner mods are key to achieving a great sound because the amps are better layed out. I have had the "snorkler" mod done ptp in other amps and none touch my blue board JCM800 50 watt that was done by Reinhold.
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According to Ronnie Champagne(Mr C) the engineer on Facelift it was all Snorkler and BK Butler Tube Driver for rhythm and leads, with some other amps used for cleans. Maybe a Bassman was used for cleans, and to thicken up the distorted tracks but my impression when he posted here was the Snorkler was 90% the dark evil growl we all know and love.
:rock:
 
Racerxrated":3hunpde2 said:
According to Ronnie Champagne(Mr C) the engineer on Facelift it was all Snorkler and BK Butler Tube Driver for rhythm and leads, with some other amps used for cleans. Maybe a Bassman was used for cleans, and to thicken up the distorted tracks but my impression when he posted here was the Snorkler was 90% the dark evil growl we all know and love.
:rock:
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When I talked to him in-depth after that chain, he relayed the opposite - the Tube Driver/Fender was the foundation and the Snorkler was the backup on rhythm set milder with a Tele. He also stressed you'll never achieve that sound without a shit ton of compression. He did say the Snorkler was the lead sound.
 
NewWorldMan":1xdj0okn said:
Racerxrated":1xdj0okn said:
According to Ronnie Champagne(Mr C) the engineer on Facelift it was all Snorkler and BK Butler Tube Driver for rhythm and leads, with some other amps used for cleans. Maybe a Bassman was used for cleans, and to thicken up the distorted tracks but my impression when he posted here was the Snorkler was 90% the dark evil growl we all know and love.
:rock:
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When I talked to him in-depth after that chain, he relayed the opposite - the Tube Driver/Fender was the foundation and the Snorkler was the backup on rhythm set milder with a Tele. He also stressed you'll never achieve that sound without a shit ton of compression. He did say the Snorkler was the lead sound.
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Interesting. So the Bassman basically was that tone, with the Tube driver boosting? Now the vintage Bassman market is about to explode.....
But, Cantrell tried to buy the Snorkler many times, and was refused...you would think if the Bassman was really the foundation he would have been able to get that tone or close to it pretty easily with some type of Bassman/Marshall mix?
I had a 69 Bassman in 82 when I was 15, had to sell it to get my first Marshall...a solid state combo....
:doh:
 
Racerxrated":vb9uqqq9 said:
Interesting. So the Bassman basically was that tone, with the Tube driver boosting? Now the vintage Bassman market is about to explode.....
But, Cantrell tried to buy the Snorkler many times, and was refused...you would think if the Bassman was really the foundation he would have been able to get that tone or close to it pretty easily with some type of Bassman/Marshall mix?
I had a 69 Bassman in 82 when I was 15, had to sell it to get my first Marshall...a solid state combo....
:doh:
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Imagine my surprise, haha. I went completely gear geek with my questioning. Even as far as asking about the Tube Driver model (it was the older 4 knob, never got whether it was a legit BK Butler, Chandler, etc). Talked about boosters, guitars and pickups, even how the Bassman was set up. Yes, I'm nuts :lol: :LOL:
 
I don't know anything about JC's rig, from any era, that I haven't read somewhere. However, I do know this... I've got a '64 6G6B Blonde Bassman (one of the last made before the change to blackface specs) and it's one of the meanest amps I've ever heard. Not heavily distorted, but loud and punchy and downright mean. The upper-mids aren't exactly Marshall-like, it lives more in the lower-mids, but it's got this bark, this snarl, that I haven't heard from other amps. It's like a pissed-off Hiwatt with Marshall kerrang (for lack of a better word) thrown in. Even though it's not the same thing, I'd put it up against almost every Marshall and Hiwatt I've ever heard (I own a vintage Hiwatt and several vintage Marshalls). This 6G6B Bassman just has something about it. I have absolutely no doubt that, if JC had access to a similar amp, it would be very easy with a Tube Driver to get those kinds of sounds.
 
Is it just me or is anyone else intrigued with how fast Jerry seemed to have grown his hair back out?
 
stephen sawall":39uf1fas said:
Maybe it's a wig ?
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His hairline up top looks pretty legit. Possible he grew it out and got some extentions if it looked thin.
 
vchizzle":3a2ue9uo said:
stephen sawall":3a2ue9uo said:
Maybe it's a wig ?
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His hairline up top looks pretty legit. Possible he grew it out and got some extentions if it looked thin.
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We don't talk about extensions much here on Rug Talk. I'm still going all natural.

One thing about Jerry.... He sounds like Jerry no matter what rig he uses. The guy has great hands.
 
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