Am I right about Bogner 4x12s?

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Also so I have a boggy 4x12. It fucking sick, tons of low end and the highs are super smooth. I find that paired with by Baron K88 it kinda gets buried in the mix. My other guitarist uses an Axefx with the 5150 model, his 333xl head (for power) and bugera cab and he cuts through like a knife. I love the K88 but maybe If I paired it up with a Mesa I might cut through more?

Thoughts? I've used Mesas before and always liked them but I haven't been able to A/B it with the Bogner.
 
You're right - Bogners make some of the finest 4x12s out there, and their 2x12s aren't too shabby either ;)
 
Haha, yeah idk. I have the mids turned up quite a bit. Ill try messing with it more.
 
kylendm":1jifattb said:
Also so I have a boggy 4x12. It fucking sick, tons of low end and the highs are super smooth. I find that paired with by Baron K88 it kinda gets buried in the mix. My other guitarist uses an Axefx with the 5150 model, his 333xl head (for power) and bugera cab and he cuts through like a knife. I love the K88 but maybe If I paired it up with a Mesa I might cut through more?

Thoughts? I've used Mesas before and always liked them but I haven't been able to A/B it with the Bogner.
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I hear ya man. I have a Bogner Uberkab and a Mesa Recto Cab (straight). To my ears the Bogner is smooth sounding. Maybe I should say a bit more refined. The Mesa is just straight up raw sounding. Put them together, HOLY SHIT! Massive. But I can see the Bogner by itself getting buried a bit.
 
Maybe all that batting they stuff into the back of the cab is attenuating the highs that are needed to cut through??
 
They are great cabs. I have the Bogner slant 4x12 with V30's that I pair with the 101B.
 
I have had a Bogner 4x12 with UK greenies in it for 10 year now. Love it!
 
I believe the grill cloth Bogner uses is designed to do just that
 
I have the one that came with V30's. I tried to like it but it was terrible. I since swapped them for WGS speakers (Liberators and Invaders) and I really dig that cab now.
 
wait - I'm editing after re reading your post. Mesa cabs are dark to me. were you looking to switch cabs or switch heads?
 
kylendm":3npuakpe said:
Also so I have a boggy 4x12. It fucking sick, tons of low end and the highs are super smooth. I find that paired with by Baron K88 it kinda gets buried in the mix. My other guitarist uses an Axefx with the 5150 model, his 333xl head (for power) and bugera cab and he cuts through like a knife. I love the K88 but maybe If I paired it up with a Mesa I might cut through more?

Thoughts? I've used Mesas before and always liked them but I haven't been able to A/B it with the Bogner.
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I guess I don't understand your post. Must be your "New Jersey" accent!? :D



UberschallEL34":3npuakpe said:
wait - I'm editing after re reading your post. Mesa cabs are dark to me. were you looking to switch cabs or switch heads?
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This...
 
Aristocat":1rp6r6je said:
Someday I'll join the Bogner club :lol: :LOL:

I want a 101B badly.
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...you should sell that "dead" Friedman and join the satisfied and happy guys using Bogner's! :D
 
Aristocat":3jbuy86j said:
Someday I'll join the Bogner club :lol: :LOL:

I want a 101B badly.
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I've owned an EL34 Shiva and XTC Classic. And there's a friend's 101B sitting in my man cave right now on long-term loan. Also had his Uber TJ in my possession for a while.

What I've learned about Bogners is that they have great tone, but like most great amps they do a few things great... but not all things. IMO they're awesome for lead work, as they have a juicy, somewhat compressed thing going, that just makes leads so fluid. But outside the Ubers, they lack a huge bottom that most Marshall style amps can generate for big, raw, roaring, open-sounding rhythm work. I used to be in-love with the Bogner sound period. And then after spending time back in the Marshall camp again, I wasn't. And now I am a fan again. As long as I keep in-mind that a Bogner is always going to have that Bogner tone, then I dig them. Not going to get a real Marshall Plexi/JCM800 thing going with one.

In regards to the thread subject, I owned a pair of Bogner OS2X12s and a Bogner straight Uberkab. Those cabs sounded bigger than my Marshall and other cabs for sure.
 
Play the Goldfinger - it's 2 channels do clean and dirty great, in fact the 90 watt EL34 has the best clean channel I've ever played, incredible amp...not just good or average, very very good; great.
 
Kapo_Polenton":37atjv0l said:
Maybe all that batting they stuff into the back of the cab is attenuating the highs that are needed to cut through??
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this is what I was thinking
 
Red_Label":34kh55qj said:
Aristocat":34kh55qj said:
Someday I'll join the Bogner club :lol: :LOL:

I want a 101B badly.
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I've owned an EL34 Shiva and XTC Classic. And there's a friend's 101B sitting in my man cave right now on long-term loan. Also had his Uber TJ in my possession for a while.

What I've learned about Bogners is that they have great tone, but like most great amps they do a few things great... but not all things. IMO they're awesome for lead work, as they have a juicy, somewhat compressed thing going, that just makes leads so fluid. But outside the Ubers, they lack a huge bottom that most Marshall style amps can generate for big, raw, roaring, open-sounding rhythm work. I used to be in-love with the Bogner sound period. And then after spending time back in the Marshall camp again, I wasn't. And now I am a fan again. As long as I keep in-mind that a Bogner is always going to have that Bogner tone, then I dig them. Not going to get a real Marshall Plexi/JCM800 thing going with one.

In regards to the thread subject, I owned a pair of Bogner OS2X12s and a Bogner straight Uberkab. Those cabs sounded bigger than my Marshall and other cabs for sure.
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Thanks for the in depth review. I've played a Shiva and both a 101B and 20Th Ecstasy and you're right on about the lead work aspect. Wasn't crazy about the Shiva as it felt like a one trick pony. I like to tweak sometimes and I'm glad the Ecstasy model doesn't look like mission control.

I'd run my Friedman and a 101B in tandem. Man would that sound huge!
 
SLOgriff":33v1ygpn said:
Aristocat":33v1ygpn said:
Someday I'll join the Bogner club :lol: :LOL:

I want a 101B badly.
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...you should sell that "dead" Friedman and join the satisfied and happy guys using Bogner's! :D
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Tempting but I don't flip. I'd rather wait to get the amp and enjoy it more knowing I have it.

Oh yeah, and college is in the way :doh:
 
Aristocat":361e19l5 said:
SLOgriff":361e19l5 said:
Aristocat":361e19l5 said:
Someday I'll join the Bogner club :lol: :LOL:

I want a 101B badly.
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...you should sell that "dead" Friedman and join the satisfied and happy guys using Bogner's! :D
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Tempting but I haven't started flipping yet.
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