Anyone have info on Rocktron super C hush stereo unit

[Devilinside]

I have a dual amp setup and I know the ISP pro rack G stereo mod would be best, but damn they are expensive! Wondering if the rocktron would suffice

 

[RockNRun]

I use the Super C in my amps loops and have no issues with it. Yeah, yeah, blah blah, the ISP is the more popular unit for noise reduction, but I ONLY use the GATE on the Hush, leave the noise reduc feature totally off, and in that way/use, it sucks Z-E-R-O tone and works like a charm for simply tapering off to silence. I hear no "tone suckage" with it on or off/bypassed. I've never quite got the whole concept of reducing noise anyway, at least not during playing - that noise is our tone, lol. A gate, yes. Noise reduction while running, NO thanks, at least for me.

 

[Motorpud]

I had one about 5 years ago and my main problem was that it's not switchable. Once you set the threshold to work right on the gain channel, you can't switch to the clean channel
or my volume would die or be weak. I could never find a happy medium personally. Maybe you'll have better luck

I wound up switching to a g-major or g-major 2 and used the gate in that instead.

 

[Laura]

I like the older Hush units better than the Super C. I actually talked to Bill at ISP about it the other day. I have 2 stereo modded pro rack g's and an older 2 channel Hush. I am thinking of parting with one but haven't made up my mind yet. The ISP is definitely better because it kills noise from the amp and noise from the guitar. However, many folks don't need all of that. A guy I used to jam with prefers a gate but I like the quick response from the ISP. The Hush will do quite a bit but the ISP is more transparent.

 

[Devilinside]

Awesome info! My train of thought is probably much like RockNRun in that I guess im mainly wanting to use the gate anyway so not using the noise reduction function is probably how I would use it anyway. So 1-stereo super C would work for two amps?
Laura, PM me if you are planning on offing one, please?

 

[fearhk213]

I used an older Super C years ago. I had great luck running it in the loop of my Recto at the time. For whatever reason though it was a pain to get it set up properly at first. Maybe it was because I'd never messed with a gate before. Anyway, once I got it set up I didn't have issues switching between channels or tone suck (as long as I didn't go to high on the threshold), but these new ones may be different.

 

[Laura]

Awesome info! My train of thought is probably much like RockNRun in that I guess im mainly wanting to use the gate anyway so not using the noise reduction function is probably how I would use it anyway. So 1-stereo super C would work for two amps?
Laura, PM me if you are planning on offing one, please?

Yes, if it is stereo, you can use it for 2 amps. That is what I did for years. I had the 1/2 rack Hush units, a stereo Hush and a Super C. You would run the HUSH or ISP into the loop of each amp and then you have spit the signal in front of the amps. I use the Lehle Little Dual now.

 

[Devilinside]

So I would need a splitter too? Thats only with the rocktron though right Laura?
Im using a RJM Rg-16 to control amp switching.

 

[killertone]

Used an ISP Pro Rack G for a while but I actually preferred the Hush Super C. I have since moved to using the GM2 gate which works really well.

 

[Laura]

So I would need a splitter too? Thats only with the rocktron though right Laura?
Im using a RJM Rg-16 to control amp switching.

I am not familiar with that unit but when I looked up the manual, it appears that you can use it as your "splitter". The Super C will connect through your loop only while the ISP will connect to your loop and there is one output that needs to be split to each amp and then the output of your guitar goes to the input on the back of the unit. Hopefully, that makes sense.

 

[Devilinside]

So I would need a splitter too? Thats only with the rocktron though right Laura?
Im using a RJM Rg-16 to control amp switching.

I am not familiar with that unit but when I looked up the manual, it appears that you can use it as your "splitter". The Super C will connect through your loop only while the ISP will connect to your loop and there is one output that needs to be split to each amp and then the output of your guitar goes to the input on the back of the unit. Hopefully, that makes sense.

Yes and no, but im a dumb ass!

I need to do some thinking!

 

[Laura]

So I would need a splitter too? Thats only with the rocktron though right Laura?
Im using a RJM Rg-16 to control amp switching.

I am not familiar with that unit but when I looked up the manual, it appears that you can use it as your "splitter". The Super C will connect through your loop only while the ISP will connect to your loop and there is one output that needs to be split to each amp and then the output of your guitar goes to the input on the back of the unit. Hopefully, that makes sense.

Yes and no, but im a dumb ass!

I need to do some thinking!

Here is a wiring diagram from the Pro Rack G manual showing one way to use the stereo modded version. As you see there are 2 sets of sends and returns (one for each amp) and an input and an output for your guitar and amp. I think the output would go to your switching unit and then you would go from there to the input of each amp.



The Super C or any Hush unit will have the send/returns on the back but not the input and output jacks.

 

[Guitar G]

I have an 80's Hush IIC rack mount that works well. Very transparent, no tone suck. Love the old Hush units.

 

[Devilinside]

Thanks Laura, thats what i was looking for. I'm thinking the ISP would definitely be an easier solution.

 

[Devilinside]

Used an ISP Pro Rack G for a while but I actually preferred the Hush Super C. I have since moved to using the GM2 gate which works really well.

So jason you like the major's gate better than the ISP? Would I have issues using 2-amps. I had an old G major for about a week and the gate sounded very artificial to me but I really didnt give it much effort, plus it was a totally different rig.

 

[killertone]

Used an ISP Pro Rack G for a while but I actually preferred the Hush Super C. I have since moved to using the GM2 gate which works really well.

So jason you like the major's gate better than the ISP? Would I have issues using 2-amps. I had an old G major for about a week and the gate sounded very artificial to me but I really didnt give it much effort, plus it was a totally different rig.

The GM2 gate works extremely well and has a very low amount of tone suck. The ISP was great but I actually had a bit of volume loss as well as more noticeable tone loss than I had with the much cheaper Hush Super C. Go figure. I a/b'd back and forth a million times and when I just used my ears and didn't think about cost or hype, the Hush won. I still have the Hush and when I go back to a pedal setup with my GCX, I will use it again.

 

[Devilinside]

Was just checking out the rocktron hush ultra which looks pretty interesting as well. Also found an old older hush IICX locally so now im confused as ever. I have read some really good reviews of the older IICX unit so if I can snag that pretty cheap it is a consideration. Anyone try either of these?