Anyone registered their pistol braced AR's with the NFA yet?

[War_in_D]

We're about half way though the 120 days, and I'm seriously thinking about filling out my Form 1 and being done with this mess. I bought mine brand new as a pistol, so it's already on a Form 4473 as such and wouldn't be that hard to find if a certain alphabet agency wanted to find it.

Anyone else went through the process, and can outline any possible pitfalls?

 

[CRAIG4FSU]

F no!

 

[Floyd Eye]

Possible pitfalls besides registering your pistol with the feds ?

You do understand that 4473 exists in paper form only and only at the FFL you bought it from. The feds would have to come to the store and physically pull the paper 4473.

Why don't you just take the brace off ?

 

[War_in_D]

Possible pitfalls besides registering your pistol with the feds ?

You do understand that 4473 exists in paper form only and only at the FFL you bought it from. The feds would have to come to the store and physically pull the paper 4473.

Why don't you just take the brace off ?

Yeah, I get that about the 4473 and removing the brace, etc.. Honestly, my thoughts are that this will evenutally be overturned but it ain't gonna be in the next ~60 days. It took years for the bump stock ban to be overturned in the courts. So, if a person had any inclination toward buying/having/owning an SBR anyway, then it seems that right now would be the optimal time to do it given the tax amnesty. My thoughts are that if I were to SBR it, then I could really "SBR it", you know what I mean? Change it over to an actual stock, eventually suppress it, etc.

 

[Dave M]

Possible pitfalls besides registering your pistol with the feds ?

You do understand that 4473 exists in paper form only and only at the FFL you bought it from. The feds would have to come to the store and physically pull the paper 4473.

I hope you know that there are a lot of electronic 4473's on record. They're not just paper copies anymore.

Why don't you just take the brace off ?

For quite a few pistols (e.g. AR platform) it takes more than that, according to the new rule. It's also a bit confusing and vague (deliberately?) in the 200+ page "rule".
If you have the time and the Tylenol you can read it.

 

[Dave M]

Yeah, I get that about the 4473 and removing the brace, etc.. Honestly, my thoughts are that this will evenutally be overturned but it ain't gonna be in the next ~60 days. It took years for the bump stock ban to be overturned in the courts. So, if a person had any inclination toward buying/having/owning an SBR anyway, then it seems that right now would be the optimal time to do it given the tax amnesty. My thoughts are that if I were to SBR it, then I could really "SBR it", you know what I mean? Change it over to an actual stock, eventually suppress it, etc.

Do some studying on the acceptance criteria for the "free" $200-off stamp, and also understand the traps in the BS process for these "free" stamps. Nevermind the illegal registry it creates, tho....

 

[Floyd Eye]

I hope you know that there are a lot of electronic 4473's on record. They're not just paper copies anymore.



For quite a few pistols (e.g. AR platform) it takes more than that, according to the new rule. It's also a bit confusing and vague (deliberately?) in the 200+ page "rule".
If you have the time and the Tylenol you can read it.

Even so those electronic files are by law not allowed to reside with the government. Now I'm not stupid enough to believe the government doesn't routinely break the law, including the one about destroying the transaction record after 88 days when you go through an NICS check, however, that information is useless to them legally except under one circumstance. And that is forced confiscation. And if that happens the government is going to have way more on their plate than trying to collect an "Other firearm" from some schlubb with no criminal record.

And with regards to pistol braces, no brace equals no braced pistol period. All those other things don't mean anything if there's no brace present. And yes I have read it.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Another helpful bit of info. Most 10.5" AR pistols are a bit longer than 27" without the brace. That means they are NOT "concealable" as far as the ATF is concerned.