Astrobotics moon mission not going great

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VonBonfire said:
How can there be no plume with thousands of pounds of thrust directed at it? It's going to throw the dust up in some fashion. It's not going to cleverly avoid every surface of the craft.
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It simply blew away from the craft. That’s really all there is to it.
 
Aynirar27 said:
It simply blew away from the craft. That’s really all there is to it.
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Aynirar27 said:
It simply blew away from the craft. That’s really all there is to it.
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Directing 3000lbs of force into the dust would force dust in every direction, some of which would come straight back down onto your lunar lander. It's inevitable. What you are claiming is akin to claiming the hand of god set the module there himself and voila, no dust.
 
VonBonfire said:
Directing 3000lbs of force into the dust would force dust in every direction, some of which would come straight back down onto your lunar lander. It's inevitable. What you are claiming is akin to claiming the hand of god set the module there himself and voila, no dust.
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There was certainly dust
 
Aynirar27 said:
There was certainly dust
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How do you figure that the dust didn’t get on the module? I can imagine it blew away from the thrusters, but those are circular, so some would go towards the ship itself.
 
acceptance said:
How do you figure that the dust didn’t get on the module? I can imagine it blew away from the thrusters, but those are circular, so some would go towards the ship itself.
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Why would it go towards the ship?
 
Aynirar27 said:
Why would it go towards the ship?
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It would go everywhere. A lot would be directed away from the ship but during landing as the reverse thruster changed angles and distance from the surface it would be inevitable that the module would be noticeably dusty. Some would be kicked straight up, bounce off the underneath of the craft, and show up ion those landing feet and other areas under the craft, among other places.
 
Aynirar27 said:
Why would it go towards the ship?
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Here’s rudimentary sketch. The thrusters are the smaller circles. While it would be blowing dust away, dust would also be blown inward as pictured by the arrows.

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VonBonfire said:
It would go everywhere. A lot would be directed away from the ship but during landing as the reverse thruster changed angles and distance from the surface it would be inevitable that the module would be noticeably dusty. Some would be kicked straight up, bounce off the underneath of the craft, and show up ion those landing feet and other areas under the craft, among other places.
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VonBonfire said:
It would go everywhere. A lot would be directed away from the ship but during landing as the reverse thruster changed angles and distance from the surface it would be inevitable that the module would be noticeably dusty. Some would be kicked straight up, bounce off the underneath of the craft, and show up ion those landing feet and other areas under the craft, among other places.
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Eh the moon isn’t Texas dude. Sorry
 
Apollo 11 computer engineer Jack Garman said, “the computer screens that we looked at in Mission Control weren’t computer screens at all. They were televisions. All the letters, or characters, [they] were all hand drawn. I don’t necessarily mean with a brush, but I mean they were painted on a slide.” But they sure looked pretty damned impressive.
 
Aynirar27 said:
Eh the moon isn’t Texas dude. Sorry
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And the lunar module isn't a magical craft. It can get dusty. You're not making good points nor valid rebuttals. You think it literally didn't gather a speck of dust during that landing. That's what you are suggesting. And now it's all "the moon ain't texas dude". You'll go to any length to maintain the delusion that there was a moon landing and now since you have run out of explanations you return to the lowest common deonominator of attacking me personally. I am always happy to play that game if you so desire I just don't want your solid fuel rocket brain melting down in here again. I don't feel like watching your Challenger head explode again.
 
acceptance said:
There would be a shit ton of cross currents. It would be a swirling mess.
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Even without air. The thrusters would have directed dust into every direction by the time the craft landed. They want us to believe they used a THROTTLED ROCKET ENGINE, carefully controlled, and didn't kick up any appreciable dust. It's too much of a stretch unless you blindly believe.
 
According to Harold Loden, Apollo 11 mission controller, “The skin on the crew cabin [of the lunar module] was very thin, and that was all done because of weight savings.” Another talking-head added that, “If you really took your finger and poked hard at it, you could poke right through the outer skin of the spacecraft. It was about the thickness of two layers of aluminum foil.” Project Manager Thomas Kelly concurred, noting that “the skin, the aluminum alloy skin of the crew compartment was about 12/1000s of an inch thick. That’s equivalent to about three layers of Reynold’s Wrap that you would use in the kitchen.”

^One moon rock kicked up by that reverse thruster would've ended the mission. Seems like suicide when you look at the moon's supposed surface.
 
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