Bogner uberschall OG or Rev Green RI?

[hopkinWFG]

Howdy ! Pretty much of the happenings on the uberschall mk2.... i was wondering why bogner still didnt wanna do a reincarnation of the Bogner uberschall OG or least the green rev that most people still like being heavy not sterile etc?

Are there anybody close to Reinhold whom might wanna raise this question to him?

The rev 2 has been scares and i still been looking high and low for a used one for a good price

 

[Omnipotent1]

I’m taking a guess here & going to say they are more than likely focusing on innovation rather than the Gibson approach of surviving off their history/reissues.. It’s such a subjective thing.. some people like the green hate the blue despise the reissue. Love the reissue, despise the green/blue. Love the green respect the blue & hate the reissue.. A true Bogner fan loves & respects all of Reinhold’s masterpieces. They are extremely hard to find.. Just religiously check the market & try to network with big collectors.. I scored my green through a collector existing the hobby but I also had to take a 500 miles round trip to score it..

 

[Yehuda]

I think the uber ultra is more appealing to the general public than rev 1 or rev green Ubers- and that’s coming from someone who loves his rev 1 and thinks the uber ultra pales in comparison.

The majority of amp buyers want amps that are tight without a boost and relatively neutral frequency wise- a reason than the revv generator and similarly sterile amps sell well.

To me, the things that make me love amps are that they do have unique sounds that stand out- the uber rev 1 is super thick and massive, but to someone who wants the sound to just be tight and inoffensive, the uber ultra is going to be their thing more.

It doesn’t help that the majority of guitar players grow up on digital only, and don’t understand the magic of a cranked raw organic amp. If you grow up on neural dsp plugins, and then played a revv or and uber ultra (yes the uber ultra is way better than the revv), you won’t find there to be something missing.

If you were to shoot out a rev 1 uber next to a uber ultra on the other hand, the uber ultra would be dwarfed. Even though the uber ultra is tighter by a lot, the early uberschalls somehow sound clearer when tracking and have a wayyyyyy more organic and punchy sound.

 

[Omnipotent1]

I think the uber ultra is more appealing to the general public than rev 1 or rev green Ubers- and that’s coming from someone who loves his rev 1 and thinks the uber ultra pales in comparison.

The majority of amp buyers want amps that are tight without a boost and relatively neutral frequency wise- a reason than the revv generator and similarly sterile amps sell well.

To me, the things that make me love amps are that they do have unique sounds that stand out- the uber rev 1 is super thick and massive, but to someone who wants the sound to just be tight and inoffensive, the uber ultra is going to be their thing more.

It doesn’t help that the majority of guitar players grow up on digital only, and don’t understand the magic of a cranked raw organic amp. If you grow up on neural dsp plugins, and then played a revv or and uber ultra (yes the uber ultra is way better than the revv), you won’t find there to be something missing.

If you were to shoot out a rev 1 uber next to a uber ultra on the other hand, the uber ultra would be dwarfed. Even though the uber ultra is tighter by a lot, the early uberschalls somehow sound clearer when tracking and have a wayyyyyy more organic and punchy sound.

What this pimp said % agree… However I am one of those that grew up in the modern era with shitty modelers & digital distortion pedals.. Then eventually upgraded to a 6505 through highschool.. The Rev blue feels more familiar (closer to my 6505) & is way easier to play for me because of its more synthetic leaning nature.. when I first plugged into my green it was that moment in which I finally understood the word “organic, & raw”… I couldn’t play it worth a fuck compared to the blue (because it’s not what I’m familiar with) .. It was extremely humbling & pushes me to up my playing skills.. It is personally my #2 favorite amp in the collection for some of the reasons mentioned above but more so for the massive/aggressive tone…

 

[thegame]

The Uber Rev1s came stock with ARS branded EL34s which could handle the amp’s high plate voltages. I’m not sure if those tubes were rebranded JJs but after just a few years of production, Reinhold was forced to significantly lower the plate voltage in the revised Rev Blue due to either; a) the supply of ARS EL34s drying up or b) if those were JJs all along then the quality of them took a rapid nosedive in the mid-late 2000’s and they couldn’t withstand those high voltages anymore. Also around the Rev Blue era there was heavy demand by players to revoice the Uber for more upper mids and less sub lows so that was intentional as well. Pepperidge farm remembers!