Cabs, and cables...I think my ears might be broken??

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So recently I bought a Bogner 412, killer cab loaded up with 4 greenbacks, sounds pretty good. I am moving, and about a week after buying the cab decided that since I am selling a bunch of larger items to make my move easier I will try to find a great deal on a 212, and sell the Bogner. I found a 5150 III 212 in mint condition for $300, sounded like garbage in the store. But I remember when I was trying my 5150 III 50 watt head through a bunch of different cabs in the store almost all of them were really lacking. The rooms that they have for trying amps in are small, and almost a triangle shape, and I think they just make everything sound like ass.

Anyways I get the cab home, and it rips :rock: I actually like it better than my Bogner 412!!! I went back, and forth between the two cabs for a while, and I noticed something very interesting. The speaker cable that came with my 5150 III 50 watt head is nice and big, with good quality ends, and thick cable it makes every cab, or amp I use it with sound bright, and lacking in bass. Has anyone else noticed this?? I compared it to a couple of home made speaker cables, a monster cable, and an el cheapo speaker cable from the bottom of my cable box. All the rest sounded the same, but the EVH cable sounded like garbage.

I am going to bring that cable into work one of these days, and check the capacitance, and inductance, my meter at home can't do those checks. All the solder joints look perfect. I am wondering if the bad sounding cables are what was making all those cabs sound so bad!!??!! Anyone else with a 5150 III find the cable to sound bad too??
 
GuitarGuyLP":34boxj1b said:
. . .and lacking in bass.
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If the 5150 cab comes with casters, then remove them and have the cab fully flat and touching the floor. See if that cures your lacking of bass issue.
 
It only lacks bass with the cable that came with my 5150 iii head. Every other speaker cable brings back the bass. All the solder joints look good. There is nothing visibly wrong with it, but every amp, and cab lacks bass with that cable
 
GuitarGuyLP":5fwso9rx said:
It only lacks bass with the cable that came with my 5150 iii head. Every other speaker cable brings back the bass. All the solder joints look good. There is nothing visibly wrong with it, but every amp, and cab lacks bass with that cable
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Not sure if serious?
 
I thought that it might just be me, but I did an a/b comparison, and had my wife listen to see if she could hear a difference between the two cables with no changes to anything else, and she heard a big difference. I checked the cable with my multimeter, and it checks out fine. I am just wondering if anyone else who has a 5150 iii 50 watt amp has the same problem with the included speaker cable. I wouldn't have noticed it if I wasn't swapping around speaker cabs, and seemed to notice that every cab I hooked up with that cable lacked bass. Then I started trying the same cab with a couple of different speaker cables, and noticed that cable sounded quite different from all the others.
 
The cable is a minor thing. The main realization that I had is it doesn't matter the quality of the cab for some reason I always prefer 1x12, or 2x12 cabs over 4x12s. I don't know anyone else who seems to feel the same way, but over the last few years I have tried a bunch of 4x12s, but couldn't really gel with them, but the 2x12s, and a couple of the 1x12s were awesome IMO.
 
GuitarGuyLP":oh448n7t said:
It only lacks bass with the cable that came with my 5150 iii head. Every other speaker cable brings back the bass. All the solder joints look good. There is nothing visibly wrong with it, but every amp, and cab lacks bass with that cable
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cables will make a difference for definite as they will have an effect on the roll off of frequencies so just stop using the cable...
 
yep sounds like you got a duff cable...call EVH and tel them, i'm sure they will send you a new one for free
 
GuitarGuyLP":j34l2iy3 said:
.....over the last few years I have tried a bunch of 4x12s, but couldn't really gel with them.
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Is this even possible? How does one not "gel" with a 4x12" cab? Curious....... :confused:
 
I am wondering that too. I have had some good 4x12s, but I seem to like 2x12s better especially vertical 2x12s. I do know that the phasing between the speakers causes part of that 4x12 sound, and with a 2x12, or a 1x12 it seems like the sound is more constant when I move around the room, and I am not sure if that is part of it or not. I keep trying 4x12s, but I keep getting the same result. I guess it is just what I am used to, but it does seem strange to me.
 
Maybe you just need to add a few more 4x12"s to your back line....... More = Better ;)
 
Maybe the trick is multiple 4x12s, maybe 4 4x12s will sound better than my 2x12, and I will finally be cured of cab gas :lol: :LOL:

I think that I have finally just accepted the fact that I like smaller cabs, and I will just be happy with my smaller, lighter, more portable cabs :D ...I am sure that some of the guys on here who gig wish they had this problem
 
This guy for real? Everyone knows more and bigger is better and badder...Ahhhh, cognitive dissonance!!!!!
 
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