Cameron 4X12 vs Bogner 4X12 Standard

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Has anyone owned both cabs with the same type of speakers installed in each? Just curious on what the difference in design and sound with like V30s or other speakers. I owned a Bogner V30 way back in the day and used it with the XTC 101B and was a great set-up. Just wondering if buying one again would be that muchh different than the Cameron 4X12 that I currently have, which I can load with V30s, if needed.
 
Aren't they made by the same guy?
As well as other cabs?
 
I thought both they were made here?

Marvics Musical Enclosures
16252 Koala Rd. Adelanto CA, 92301.
Owner: Victor Duardo ph: 760-246-0910 fax: 760-246-0017
 
Yeah actually they could have different designs for each customer.
Never thought of that :doh:
I'm kinda curious myself now.
I have a Bogner 4x12 straight cab, and I swear it has more lowend
Than my Mesa, however I haven't tried a Cameron.
 
locoed":2q5fytuy said:
Yeah actually they could have different designs for each customer.
Never thought of that :doh:
I'm kinda curious myself now.
I have a Bogner 4x12 straight cab, and I swear it has more lowend
Than my Mesa, however I haven't tried a Cameron.
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Yeah i was looking to pick up the Bogner 4X12 straight cab, but I might just put the V30s I have laying around in the Cameron 4X12. The Cameron has plenty low end!!!
 
locoed":26r95md0 said:
What's in the Cameron now? Greenies?
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Well they were all G12H30 70 Anny's which come stock, but I put two British CL80s in an X-pattern to take the edge off the G12H30's. I am getting a KK++ from Dan Gower soon and he recommends V30s, which I have 4 laying around and I have used in my cabs for the Bogner 101B, Shiva and Engl Savage 120 back in the day. I have the G12H Heritage 55hz and G12H Heritage 75hz combo in my Marshall BHW and those speakers destroy!!!! I am not a huge fan of Greenbacks, but I have not really given them much of a chance though.
 
metalmaniac93":ykm14n5r said:
locoed":ykm14n5r said:
What's in the Cameron now? Greenies?
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Well they were all G12H30 70 Anny's which come stock, but I put two British CL80s in an X-pattern to take the edge off the G12H30's. I am getting a KK++ from Dan Gower soon and he recommends V30s, which I have 4 laying around and I have used in my cabs for the Bogner 101B, Shiva and Engl Savage 120 back in the day. I have the G12H Heritage 55hz and G12H Heritage 75hz combo in my Marshall BHW and those speakers destroy!!!! I am not a huge fan of Greenbacks, but I have not really given them much of a chance though.
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I know Dan and Mike both like and recommend V30's with their amps.. Ive got an X pattern of Scumback M75/J75 65watters and they sound Great! I really don't think there is a bad speaker for the Kali to be honest... I know Aldrich uses greenies in his cabs with his modded marshalls (all be it it's not a Kali).. I would like to revisit the V30 with the Killer Kali and see my thoughts... I just never liked the somewhat shrill, brash mids of the V30... My ears always preferred the warmer and creamier greenie. Can't wait til you get your Kali... you're gonna dig :rock:
 
Can't argue with V-30's mid ice pick tones, I need something darker myself.
I have a Marshall TV with greenies but there isn't much of a grunt I'm looking
For. But the mids are nice.
 
suhrimmetal":20oyn06h said:
metalmaniac93":20oyn06h said:
locoed":20oyn06h said:
What's in the Cameron now? Greenies?
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Well they were all G12H30 70 Anny's which come stock, but I put two British CL80s in an X-pattern to take the edge off the G12H30's. I am getting a KK++ from Dan Gower soon and he recommends V30s, which I have 4 laying around and I have used in my cabs for the Bogner 101B, Shiva and Engl Savage 120 back in the day. I have the G12H Heritage 55hz and G12H Heritage 75hz combo in my Marshall BHW and those speakers destroy!!!! I am not a huge fan of Greenbacks, but I have not really given them much of a chance though.
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I know Dan and Mike both like and recommend V30's with their amps.. Ive got an X pattern of Scumback M75/J75 65watters and they sound Great! I really don't think there is a bad speaker for the Kali to be honest... I know Aldrich uses greenies in his cabs with his modded marshalls (all be it it's not a Kali).. I would like to revisit the V30 with the Killer Kali and see my thoughts... I just never liked the somewhat shrill, brash mids of the V30... My ears always preferred the warmer and creamier greenie. Can't wait til you get your Kali... you're gonna dig :rock:
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Yeah I agree about the V30s being shrill. I just wanted to mix things up since I already have the UK Heritage G12Hs in my Marshall cab. Scumbacks are also another alternative and I have a pair (J75/H55) in my Bogner OS212, but I have 4 UK V30s sitting around and wanted to try them in the Cameron cab instead of buying a used Bogner 4X12ST.

I am really looking forward to getting the KK++. I want it to be my end all Marshall type amp that covers the entire spectrum. I also got a clean channel and all of the options.
 
locoed":3huczxm3 said:
Can't argue with V-30's mid ice pick tones, I need something darker myself.
I have a Marshall TV with greenies but there isn't much of a grunt I'm looking
For. But the mids are nice.
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Yes, I also like the grunt so that is why the G12H Heritage speakers (55 or 75hz) work great IMO.
 
metalmaniac93":oqdugu1l said:
locoed":oqdugu1l said:
Can't argue with V-30's mid ice pick tones, I need something darker myself.
I have a Marshall TV with greenies but there isn't much of a grunt I'm looking
For. But the mids are nice.
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Yes, I also like the grunt so that is why the G12H Heritage speakers (55 or 75hz) work great IMO.
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Really? Those? I figured those were more rock sounding.
I had 2 V-30's rebuilt with hemp cones and they do just what
Their suppose to do, however think I wanna try the H-75's now.
 
locoed":2u045d1d said:
metalmaniac93":2u045d1d said:
locoed":2u045d1d said:
Can't argue with V-30's mid ice pick tones, I need something darker myself.
I have a Marshall TV with greenies but there isn't much of a grunt I'm looking
For. But the mids are nice.
Click to expand...


Yes, I also like the grunt so that is why the G12H Heritage speakers (55 or 75hz) work great IMO.
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Really? Those? I figured those were more rock sounding.
I had 2 V-30's rebuilt with hemp cones and they do just what
Their suppose to do, however think I wanna try the H-75's now.
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Yes they do!! They slay with the Atomica and I am sure they will with the KK++. I have the G12H Heritage 55hzs (stock with the Marshall BHW) on the bottom for low end thump and the G12H 75hz on the top to provide more mids than what a full set of H55s has. The Heritage 55s/V30 combo in an X-Pattern sound massive in my buddy's 4X12 Savage playing through my old Engl Savage 120 that I sold him. Hell, I might just do the same thing to the Cameorn cab since I have a pair of G12H 55hz left.
 
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