Celestion Greenback vs Creamback 75 (Video)

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Hey, guys.
Just recorded this video today.

Used a Friedman Smallbox, Gibson Les Paul and Isobox (Randall clone) with Shure SM57 and AKG P170.
Added a little reveb from Reaper.

Hope it's useful for you. :rock:

 
thanks... I'm hearing more mids with the creamback? regardless I like the creamback better
 
Sounds good. The 1st groove reminds me of early Whitesnake. Is it??

The Cream makes an impression on your ears since you put it first. I think Ilike it better.
 
I guess I'm the odd man out… I prefer the green back… I like that 'chirp'
I guess if I owned a stock 1980s JCM 800, I might prefer the cream back.
I love these videos, great job, Del rei !!
 
I like the 'chirp' of the Greenback a lot. But I also like the deeper low-end and sweet top-end of the Creamback.

Question: Did you EQ the amp for the Creamback or the Greenback? Because I'm wondering if a slight EQ tweak of the amp could make up the difference to either speaker.

Also, either way those are some great tones you have going and your playing is wonderful. :)
 
The greenback does it for me. It's a very familiar sound. I love the slight sizzle you get from those speakers. When pushed nothing does the Marshal crunch like a greenback!!!
 
Nice. I have both in my Friedman cab (Had to get those v30's out of there the second i heard them isolated in a recording. yuck). The cab sounds so balanced and perfect now. Isolated here, i prefer the Greenback because of the sizzle.
 
The higher the gain the more I preferred the Creamback. I liked the clean of both about the same, maybe slight edge to Greenback. Overall, Creamback by a good amount.

Nicely done too. :thumbsup:
 
SpiderWars":2sptedgk said:
The higher the gain the more I preferred the Creamback. I liked the clean of both about the same, maybe slight edge to Greenback. Overall, Creamback by a good amount.

Nicely done too. :thumbsup:
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What was said here for me too..Creamback all the way.
 
I like the greenback. Creamback seems like its got a slight case of sniffles.
 
Thank you all, guys!! Hope it is useful!! :)

FourT6and2":3p09p8ik said:
Question: Did you EQ the amp for the Creamback or the Greenback? Because I'm wondering if a slight EQ tweak of the amp could make up the difference to either speaker.
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No, didn't move anything on EQ (amp or post recording). Just added some little reverb to all tracks.
Thank you!!

midnightlaundry":3p09p8ik said:
Sounds good. The 1st groove reminds me of early Whitesnake. Is it??
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Well, actually it is nothing. Just played, but certainly it may sounds like something known. I really like this riff!!! :)
 
Hey, guys. Thank you all for answering.

Now, I did something different... Mixed Greenback and Creamback 75 together.

I used the recorded tracks in previous video and now I mixed together the two speakers in some combinations to simulate how it sounds when you use both speakers in a cabinet. It may not be real, but might help.

It was a simulation with 1 main riff (panned 40% left) and a second guitar (panned 40% right).


 
Del Rei":ru1hqfq9 said:
No, didn't move anything on EQ (amp or post recording). Just added some little reverb to all tracks.
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What I mean is... you had to EQ the amp at some point, right? Unless you put everything at some arbitrary setting (like noon)? Which speakers was the amp hooked up to when you set the amp up for the sound you like? Because if you EQ'd the amp to sound good to you while connected to Speaker A and then plugged in Speaker B and didn't change anything on the amp, that will influence the sound. Because If you had EQ'd the amp while connected to Speaker B instead, and then hooked up Speaker A... I'm sure the results would be a little different. :) Make sense?

For example, there's a big pickup shootout video out there. 15 different pickups. The artist set up his recording rig and amp to sound awesome while one set of pickups were in his guitar and then didn't change anything for the other 14 pickups. Guess which pickup everybody said they liked the most? Yup... the one he first EQ'd the amp for. :)
 
FourT6and2":3k3vyll4 said:
Del Rei":3k3vyll4 said:
No, didn't move anything on EQ (amp or post recording). Just added some little reverb to all tracks.
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What I mean is... you had to EQ the amp at some point, right? Unless you put everything at some arbitrary setting (like noon)? Which speakers was the amp hooked up to when you set the amp up for the sound you like? Because if you EQ'd the amp to sound good to you while connected to Speaker A and then plugged in Speaker B and didn't change anything on the amp, that will influence the sound. Because If you had EQ'd the amp while connected to Speaker B instead, and then hooked up Speaker A... I'm sure the results would be a little different. :) Make sense?

For example, there's a big pickup shootout video out there. 15 different pickups. The artist set up his recording rig and amp to sound awesome while one set of pickups were in his guitar and then didn't change anything for the other 14 pickups. Guess which pickup everybody said they liked the most? Yup... the one he first EQ'd the amp for. :)
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I understood your point, and makes total sense.
Curiously, the amp was set to my V30 cabinet, that is my main cabinet. But, I use the same settings of my V30 on the Creamback, so, you're right, I set the amp for Creamback first.

In the end, this result will NOT indicate the best or worst speaker, but some characteristics (brighter, darker, mids, lows....) of one speaker compared to the other when you use the same settings.

Thank you for your point. Will consider this next time! :thumbsup:
 
I suppo the creamback has a bigger magnet and higher sensitivity
Loudness makes a big difference in our perception, but it also has a lot to do with the extra attack
 
Del Rei":3ucnpuc2 said:
FourT6and2":3ucnpuc2 said:
Del Rei":3ucnpuc2 said:
No, didn't move anything on EQ (amp or post recording). Just added some little reverb to all tracks.
Click to expand...

What I mean is... you had to EQ the amp at some point, right? Unless you put everything at some arbitrary setting (like noon)? Which speakers was the amp hooked up to when you set the amp up for the sound you like? Because if you EQ'd the amp to sound good to you while connected to Speaker A and then plugged in Speaker B and didn't change anything on the amp, that will influence the sound. Because If you had EQ'd the amp while connected to Speaker B instead, and then hooked up Speaker A... I'm sure the results would be a little different. :) Make sense?

For example, there's a big pickup shootout video out there. 15 different pickups. The artist set up his recording rig and amp to sound awesome while one set of pickups were in his guitar and then didn't change anything for the other 14 pickups. Guess which pickup everybody said they liked the most? Yup... the one he first EQ'd the amp for. :)
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I understood your point, and makes total sense.
Curiously, the amp was set to my V30 cabinet, that is my main cabinet. But, I use the same settings of my V30 on the Creamback, so, you're right, I set the amp for Creamback first.

In the end, this result will NOT indicate the best or worst speaker, but some characteristics (brighter, darker, mids, lows....) of one speaker compared to the other when you use the same settings.

Thank you for your point. Will consider this next time! :thumbsup:
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Oh that's great, then (V30). Because then neither speaker had a "head start" so to speak haha. Nice job either way!
 
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