Crate V30 head and 2x12" cab - I may buy this...

[vchizzle]

Haven't played one, but I've heard good things too. That seems like a great deal to me. I'd snag it if I were you.

VHT to Peacemaker to Fender to Crate!!!
Ya got admit its pretty damn funny. Good tone is good tone, if it works...go with it.

 

[vchizzle]

Haven't played one, but I've heard good things too. That seems like a great deal to me. I'd snag it if I were you.

VHT to Peacemaker to Fender to Crate!!!
Ya got admit its pretty damn funny. Good tone is good tone, if it works...go with it.

Ha ha, yes it is funny! I think I'll snag it. Then I'll have:

- Fender Twin + pedals
- V-series head/cab + pedals
- Marshall DSL50 head/4x12" cab + small rack for effects (Intellifex)

Three pretty useful modestly priced rigs. I called the seller and he's a cool guy. I may head out there this afternoon to pick it up. May even use it at a gig tonight!

Cool, I didn't realize you got another DSL again too. I had that amp for quite awhile too, I could never get rid of that high mid Marshally sorta tone it had So down the road she went!

 

[vchizzle]

Exactly, would be pretty easy to move if you don't like or just wanna fund something else. + it's not redundant to what you've got already, this will cover the class 'A' cathode bias area for dirt cheap.

 

[RO223]

If that head is the US version based on the V3112 I would say that is probably a pretty good deal. I bought a V3112T a while back and it's a very decent amp for it's price. It's loud and starts to sound better as you turn it up. The clean channel is very EL84ish sounding (cuz that's what it uses) and the OD channel is surprisingly good (with or without the boost engaged) and rocks hard when you crank it up. Without the boost engaged the OD channel can get some pretty decent classic rock tones, with the boost engaged you can easily get 80's hard rock/metal tones.

It won't smoke a 2k amp but it does smoke the other amps I've heard in the $500 or less class of amps. I'm still trying to justify keeping my combo, or maybe just give it to my stepson er sumthin'. Since I picked up an early 70's silverface bassman I am at the point where I have too many amps again and don't need it. It does cop some good British amp tones at a sweet price though for what it's worth.

 

[Everlone]

That's a SWEET rig for $325. I saw my buddy's classic rock/country band last night and he was using the Palomino 1x12 combo version of that head. It wasn't miked and he was the only guitar player and it sounded sweet and fat. The clean channel on that head is a different flavor than a Fender Twin, so I hope you like it. It will undoubtedly respond to your pedals differently and that could be good or bad. But for that price its def worth trying out.

 

[Tnjpekar]

I like the head and closed back cab tons better than the open back combo with that amp. Gives it a bit more beef IMO. cool Score Sarge

 

[HMJ]

I knew it chris i knew it!!!

 

[Everlone]

I look forward to your thoughts AFTER the gig.

 

[1big1]

one of the guys i play with has a 5212. we aren't the loudest group around so he only plays it when we have an outdoor gig.. but it sounds pretty decent.
the problem is that when he cranks it up to hit the sweet spot he pretty much buries us.

 

[RaceU4her]

anyone play the v100 yet?

https://cgi.ebay.com/Crate-V100H-100-Wat ... dZViewItem

 

[vchizzle]

Glad to hear it worked out and your diggin' it

 

[ejecta]

Glad to hear it worked out and your diggin' it

Thanks! I don't know what's going on with me lately... I've been pretty easily impressed with just about everything I've played lately. Are my tastes changing? Am I "settling" for "okay" tone and not worrying about every little nuance? Not sure what's happening.

Its probably that youve found something Ive come to think and that is that good tone can be found in alot of different places... cheap and expensive. IMHO the whole holy grail of tone doesnt exist. Yes some amps are better than others but good tone can be found in a broad price range from cheap to expensive.

One thing that Ive also found with a good many of the amps Ive owned is the quality of tone from amp to amp isnt that drastic of a change with well designed amps. Now the over all compression, tonal emphasis and features were pretty different as some builders sat that amps tonal center in the eq spectrum differently form others. Some were more upper mid focused, some balanced the lower mids more, some were not very bright etc. So IMHO people look for a certain eq emphasis and feel in amps. But over all I think you can find good tone in alot of amps, so use what works for you no matter the name on the amp.

 

[GRK]

Glad to hear it worked out and your diggin' it

Thanks! I don't know what's going on with me lately... I've been pretty easily impressed with just about everything I've played lately. Are my tastes changing? Am I "settling" for "okay" tone and not worrying about every little nuance? Not sure what's happening.

To be honest, my amp experiences haven't been like yours. It's been pretty straight forward. Reminds me of the "amps that you sold and you regret selling" thread on gear page. Here's what happened with me.

I've owned these in order. Bought/sold WAY more but these were the only ones that stayed with me more than 2-3 weeks:
Engl Screamer
Mesa Recto
Mesa Tremoverb
Mesa Mark IV
Mesa Triaxis/2:90
Mesa Roadster
Cornford MK50h

I'm not gonna sit here argue with people whether the list goes from worst to best but for my taste, it has been just that.

So in my opinion, it does matter. Little nuances do make a difference (for me anyways). Some people say they don't care after some point. Maybe you don't and you're happy with most. I think that's a great thing to have. The list above is all full of great amps. I love them all. I COULD buy the cheapest and be happy. But I can't go back on that list. (Bare in mind I'm not saying the most expensive has to sound best. Triaxis/2:90 is the most money I've spent on that list actually)

Take Mark III I got a while back to flip or maybe use as a second amp for example. Actually, I got it thinking maybe there was something so good about mark series that I might move back to one. After all, it was less than half of what I paid for Cornford and it would be very convenient. But I just couldn't. The tone wasn't nearly as good for my taste. It didn't sound clear enough, good enough. It was GREAT but fell short.


So, without going off track (already kinda did), I think it's about being certain about what you're looking for. I'm not saying you aren't. But I think you're going through an experimental phase. Which is great, but be prepared to purchase/sell more amps.

Having said that, glad you are happy with your purchase!

 

[yngzaklynch]

I would like clips of all three rigs. You know like an A/B/C comparison thing.

 

[gravfed]

I don't know what's going on with me lately... I've been pretty easily impressed with just about everything I've played lately. Are my tastes changing? Am I "settling" for "okay" tone and not worrying about every little nuance? Not sure what's happening.

I know what you mean. I still have all of my stuff, but all I have at school right now is a Classic 30, a BB-Pre, a tuner, compressor and my tele. I haven't played through a 1X12 combo since my SS days, but I've really been jiving with it. I thought I would really miss my Blackmore and my Mark IV, but I guess I really haven't.

 

[orangekick]

I really like that particular Crate amp. They actually got something right with that one.

 

[blackba]

Thump with 3 amps, what is the world coming to.

I have always admired how you can get by with 2 amps thump (not counting Crate powerblock here). What I find interesting is that when you downsized to the twin and pedals, that was downsizing. Now it just looks like you downsized in money, but not in number of amps.

Anyway I am eager to hear clips when you get to it. I liked the few Crate V series amps I have tried, even though I typically don't like Crate amps in general....

 

[blackba]

Here's my plan...

Pedalboard 1:

Boss TU2 > Rig-Talk Plank Cranker > Front of amp
Subdecay EchoBox > Boss GE7 > Amp effects loop

** To be used with V30 rig and/or Marshall DSL rig
** All pedals powered by Voodoo Lab Pedal Power to prevent ground loops

Pedalboard 2:

Pedal Tuner > Krank Distortus Maximus > Lovepedal PP800 > MXR Carbon Copy > Boss GE7 > Front of amp

** To be used with Fender Twin rig
** Have to buy a pedal tuner and borrowing hmj's GE7 for now
** All pedals powered with a One Spot power adapter thingy

Sounds like you have it figured out. Does the Lovepedal PP800 have more or less gain than the PC?

If you are going to get another pedal tuner, I recommend the Korg DT10 or the Peterson Strobostomp2. I like both more than the TU2. As for an EQ, don't overlook the Danelectro fish and chips. I actually have 2 on my pedal board, one for tone shaping and the other for a solo boost.

 

[Everlone]

So you're going to have two separate pedal boards? Pimp!

I actually almost owned one of those Crate heads when they first came out but the one I got was a lemon, so I just stuck with the one amp I had at the time. I'd still like to have one since I really like the cleans and I'm on a EL84 kick right now. I knew the amount of low end would suprise you. Even my buddy's 1x12 combo version of that amp has a lot of THUMP.

Did you use the Plank Cranker in front of it? How was the amp boosted?

 

[dstroud]

Here's my plan...

Pedalboard 1:

Boss TU2 > Rig-Talk Plank Cranker > Front of amp
Subdecay EchoBox > Boss GE7 > Amp effects loop

** To be used with V30 rig and/or Marshall DSL rig
** All pedals powered by Voodoo Lab Pedal Power to prevent ground loops

Pedalboard 2:

Pedal Tuner > Krank Distortus Maximus > Lovepedal PP800 > MXR Carbon Copy > Boss GE7 > Front of amp

** To be used with Fender Twin rig
** Have to buy a pedal tuner and borrowing hmj's GE7 for now
** All pedals powered with a One Spot power adapter thingy

That sounds like a good plan