Delay or Verb for Rhythm + Delay for Lead?

[Junk Yard Dog]

I wanna try using a delay for rhythm just to thicken up the sound a bit. I read something like 1.5 repeats, low mix, not sure what time. I’ve tried Reverb, but didn’t quite get there. I could use some help on the settings for delay for Rhythm.

I like to kick on a delay for leads here and there, too. I have the settings I like there, too, but I’m open to suggestions. Would having delay for rhythm and then adding the one on for leads “clash”?

I’m the only guitar player in a hard rock band.

I have the Hardwire Delay, NuX Atlantic Delay/Verb, and the HOF.

Thanks, guys.

 

[Speeddemon]

Personally, I would set the HOF to some brighter plate setting, but with a short decay and then have the mix around 30-40% for rhythm.
Add the delay for leads only.
Unless you have the chance to use a ducking delay; then it will remain low level during busy rhythm parts.
Typically good range for rock lead delay times would be around 300-360ms, with 1.5 repeat or so.

All of this goes out the window once you play 60's/rockabilly/surf of course.

 

[Dave L]

For the thickening you can also look at a chorus or micro pitch shift, which both basically are a very short delay slightly out of tune. Rate low on a chorus, depth to taste on both. This will definitely thicken up the tone itself, but won´t fill out space in the soundscape in the same way a conventional echo delay would. Could be a good or bad thing depending on application.

Stacking delays also works great, check out what Andy Timmons did with his two EH Memory Man units.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

For the thickening you can also look at a chorus or micro pitch shift, which both basically are a very short delay slightly out of tune. Rate low on a chorus, depth to taste on both. This will definitely thicken up the tone itself, but won´t fill out space in the soundscape in the same way a conventional echo delay would. Could be a good or bad thing depending on application.

Stacking delays also works great, check out what Andy Timmons did with his two EH Memory Man units.

Cool. Yeah, I thought about chorus too, but I actually like to use my MXR analog for Zakk Wylde solos, which has that overlay dramatic effect. ....So I could either not do that--but it's so much fun--or add a second chorus to do the thickening.

Thanks for chiming in!

Personally, I would set the HOF to some brighter plate setting, but with a short decay and then have the mix around 30-40% for rhythm.
Add the delay for leads only.
Unless you have the chance to use a ducking delay; then it will remain low level during busy rhythm parts.
Typically good range for rock lead delay times would be around 300-360ms, with 1.5 repeat or so.

All of this goes out the window once you play 60's/rockabilly/surf of course.

Ok, cool. Thanks! ...I'll try the HOF again with a bright plate setting.

From another thread:

So, I have the Nux and Hardwire:

I've found the Nux a little finicky with it's Delay switch, so I would probably run that one for RHYTHM in 70s or 60s mode (which is darker, analog-ish). Any suggestion on the Time setting?

Then use the Hardwire for LEAD. Suggestions on settings there?

Cheers guys! Keep 'em coming.

 

[skullfxr]

For rhythm I love my aquapuss, dialed in real low it does a great job for me. I feel (contrary to most) a little bit of analog delay in the loop works great with rhythm. Low repeats, low time just a little longer than slapback, and 25-30% mix.

Leeds it depends what you are going for. I use a bit of everything for that.

Two great pedals that are extremely affordable are the cmattmods deeelay and the V1 visual sounds h2o. Each can be had on a deal for $60ish dollars. The h2o has a really nice BBD based chorus and a more digital delay in one box.