Dialing out boominess

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So I've had my Rev 2 for awhile now and am trying to mic it up. I can't seem to get rid of this booming sub-bass. I'm using an SM57 and I like to mic the V30. Any tips on micing positions and/or settings that you guys like to use?
 
Dial in less bass for starters. Position the mic more towards the center cone perhaps. High pass your guitar track a bit after recording.
 
Audioholic":5m12m8tr said:
Dial in less bass for starters. Position the mic more towards the center cone perhaps. High pass your guitar track a bit after recording.
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The SM57 being a dynamic mic, in close micing positions create something called "proximity" effect, which can increase the amount of perceived lows from sound sources. When recording, don't be afraid of trying the mic a few inches away from the speaker grill, 4-6inches usually will reduce this boominess. The use of a High-Pass filter, usually around 80-100Hz will remove this if you want that tone from the extreme closeness of the speaker, as well as leave room for the Bass Guitar and Kick in your mix.

The idea above is great, but know that getting TOO close to the cap of the speaker will add harshness as well as reduce lows. Don't let convention lock you in to one technique, try a lot of different things, you might surprise yourself with cool sounds!
 
Milerky2":163xlmn1 said:
Audioholic":163xlmn1 said:
Dial in less bass for starters. Position the mic more towards the center cone perhaps. High pass your guitar track a bit after recording.
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The SM57 being a dynamic mic, in close micing positions create something called "precedence" effect, which can increase the amount of perceived lows from sound sources. When recording, don't be afraid of trying the mic a few inches away from the speaker grill, 4-6inches usually will reduce this boominess. The use of a High-Pass filter, usually around 80-100Hz will remove this if you want that tone from the extreme closeness of the speaker, as well as leave room for the Bass Guitar and Kick in your mix.

The idea above is great, but know that getting TOO close to the cap of the speaker will add harshness as well as reduce lows. Don't let convention lock you in to one technique, try a lot of different things, you might surprise yourself with cool sounds!
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You mean proximity effect, not precedence effect.

But as said in most of the posts above you're going to need to use a high pass filter, some people high pass much higher than others but most would agree you don't need anything going on below 80hz on guitars at lowest.
 
leib10":3b2cv5zt said:
So I've had my Rev 2 for awhile now and am trying to mic it up. I can't seem to get rid of this booming sub-bass. I'm using an SM57 and I like to mic the V30. Any tips on micing positions and/or settings that you guys like to use?
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Put a high pass filter at 110 Hz and that should solve the problem...

Steve
 
Still if you are getting to much low end with a 57, you are best to dial back the bass. Moving it away further can help, but you also risk losing some of that in your face capture, and more room added to it. yes moving closer to the cap will add brightness for sure so you may need to EQ to compensate. What settings some people think sound great to them doesn't always translate well to recording. you really don't need earth shaking low end from an electric guitar, And as stated, you probably will end up high passing some of that. But if you have to much bass to begin with, high passing may not necessarily fix your boominess sound. But also as suggested, play around with where you want the mic, and learn to dial in your amp to get the best from YOUR room, YOUR cab, YOUR mics etc....
 
Solid advice guys, thanks for the input! The Rev 2 is definitely a very weird amp to dial in and it seems that that's the case even more so when it comes to micing it up. I like keeping the mic on axis near the dustcap, about 1-2 inches away from the grillcloth to keep attack up. High pass filter is what I'll try next.

For some reason, the Twin Jet is way easier to mic up and have a thrashing, awesome tone.
 
if the rev 2 is a closed back cabinet, they are much more focused on low end.
 
Yep, I'm using my Uberkab with the back panel in place. It just thumps like no other amp I've played.
 
Most of the time I dial out everything below 240... Seems to clean up nicely.
 
I've been trying it, and I like to set the high pass filter at about 100hZ. Also went to Bob Savage's webpage with his Bogner demos and saw that he had the bass dialed way back, at like 9:30-10:00. There's a big spike in sub-bass response past 10:30, so keeping it low and boosting it with a TS9 keeps it in check. Such a weird amp to dial in. Also used Lasse Lammert's settings as a guideline. Sample clip coming later!
 
That sub bass drove me nuts with my rev blue..I had to keep the bass around 9 oclock ..
 
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