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I just got a great bonus at work and I have been saving up for a Diezel. But my wife to be in 23 days really doesn't want me to spend money on a Herbert or a VH4. So will a Einstein get me modern rock tones? (ex, Breaking Benjamin, Alter Bridge, Killswitch Engage) I have been reading as much as I can since I live in Louisiana and no one carries Diezels around my area, but I can't find that much on the Einsteins.
 
Get the Herbert or the VH4. The Einstein is a great versatile amp but for what you want there is no substitute for the Herbert or VH4. Not to mention they are extremely versatile as well!! The Herbert has an AMAZING clean tone and everything inbetween. For what you want you'll be happier with a Herbert or VH4.
 
bananaladonpcp":dh8bp4ek said:
Get the Herbert or the VH4. The Einstein is a great versatile amp but for what you want there is no substitute for the Herbert or VH4. Not to mention they are extremely versatile as well!! The Herbert has an AMAZING clean tone and everything inbetween. For what you want you'll be happier with a Herbert or VH4.

If you watch in the classifieds you can get some pretty good deals on used ones. I've seen them go for around $2500.
 
Thanks guys. That is exactly what I figured. The Einstein can do it but the VH4 and the Herbert just do it better. I should have just bought one and ask for forgiveness :D . Well I will just keep watching the classifieds and wait till she really wants something then I will have an opening.
 
Hey CoryOB.

I think sometimes Einstein doesn't get the cudos he deserves on here, Peter did design him to be a guitarists best friend you know? :D

Einstein can get you all the modern rock tones you desire, has a lead channel to die for and also has perhaps the best clean sound I have ever heard. Saving the best for last, mode 2 on Ch 1, the Texas mode is the most responsive crunch channel I have ever played through in my life. Its too good to be honest. Find that I can do a very varied cover set just on this Channel and the guitars vol control. Add two Master Volumes, no need for MIDI footswitch and its a great versatile amp which suits a working guitarist unbelievably well. 50W is LOUD (and of course you have 100W option) and not overkill of 180W found in Herbert. Okay so we don't have the Mid cut but we don't pay Herbert dollar either.

Okay I am biased of course as I own an Einstein, but I can tell you I have played semi-pro for 25 years now and its hands down the best sound I have ever had. Not just me telling me that either. The amount of guitar players I know who have seen me and just can't believe the tone I am getting from a 1 x 12 combo....

You makes your choice bud but don't write Einstein off. Check some of the Vids on You Tube, thats what sold me on getting one in the first place.

ROCK on!!! :rock:
 
badgergman":3a3a6yel said:
Hey CoryOB.

I think sometimes Einstein doesn't get the cudos he deserves on here, Peter did design him to be a guitarists best friend you know? :D

Einstein can get you all the modern rock tones you desire, has a lead channel to die for and also has perhaps the best clean sound I have ever heard. Saving the best for last, mode 2 on Ch 1, the Texas mode is the most responsive crunch channel I have ever played through in my life. Its too good to be honest. Find that I can do a very varied cover set just on this Channel and the guitars vol control. Add two Master Volumes, no need for MIDI footswitch and its a great versatile amp which suits a working guitarist unbelievably well. 50W is LOUD (and of course you have 100W option) and not overkill of 180W found in Herbert. Okay so we don't have the Mid cut but we don't pay Herbert dollar either.

Okay I am biased of course as I own an Einstein, but I can tell you I have played semi-pro for 25 years now and its hands down the best sound I have ever had. Not just me telling me that either. The amount of guitar players I know who have seen me and just can't believe the tone I am getting from a 1 x 12 combo....

You makes your choice bud but don't write Einstein off. Check some of the Vids on You Tube, thats what sold me on getting one in the first place.

ROCK on!!! :rock:

The not having to go Midi was the reason I was looking at the Einstein. I just want to make sure it can get that big low end sound with a great clean tone. I'm the rythem guitar player in the band and only have one or two solos so I just use a wah to set apart now. Does Channel Two on the Einstein have just as good as a rythem sound as mega on channel one? And if you dial a good rock sound in on channel one mega does your clean suffer? Also can you change power tubes in the Einstein like you can in the Herbert?
 
Low end no problem, obviously guitar played and cab/speaker choice will influence this greatly, but the Deep control is awesome. Diezel have the best low end. Its huge!!!

Channel 2 can do heavy as hell rhythm, unless you mod Channel 1 you can't footswitch between Mega and Clean, but I can work with Ch2 when I need a Clean/Heavy mix. I find that the eq can stay the same but just a slight move on gain to adjust between modes on Ch1 is suffice. You can swap power tubes in Einstein no problem, and it has external bias test points and adustment.

Don't forget you also have Master 2 for more flexibility and I can get a respectable clean sound on Ch 1 lowering the vol on the guitar even in mega mode.

Its a superbly versatile amp. I love it.
 
I agree with badgerman here. Even if you mod your Einstein to footswitch channel 1 modes, the gain knob throws the volumes out of whack. I like setting channel 1 to "Texas" mode with the gain pretty high (3 o'clock ish). You can roll the guitar volume back a bit and play light and get a great clean tone. Then roll it up and smack the strings like they stole your apple juice and get a very nice fairly heavy crunch sound. If you need gain for solos or rhythm kick in channel 2. I keep ch 2's gain at like 10-11 o'clock to keep it from getting mushy with my fairly hot pickups.
 
I owned an Einstien and I own a VH4. The Einny will do what you want, go for it.
 
To put it in a more philosophical way, Einy will do whatever you want from it :D
Now, you will of course want to get a Herbert, Vh4, Hagen and Schmidt after you get it, but that's another story.
Each amp is voiced slightly different but all have that signature GREAT Diezel sound.
 
Thank all of you so much. I think what I might do is pick up a Einstein then save up for a Hagen, Herbert, or VH4. My biggest complaint about the big 3, if you want to call them that, of the Diezel family is that they don't come with a simple foot switch. I don't have midi and never want it. I just want to be able to switch channels.

I probably would be willing to go ahead and spend the extra 1000 on a used Herbert or VH4 if I didn't have to buy a massive midi foot switch.
 
I definitely liked the Einstein's ch1 mode 3 better than the VH4S ch3
same core tone, but more open and organic
didn't pay the other channels much attention, though
unless you're looking for the extra features, the Einstein won't be any less awesome than the VH4
 
ericsabbath":3w038ms9 said:
I definitely liked the Einstein's ch1 mode 3 better than the VH4S ch3
same core tone, but more open and organic
didn't pay the other channels much attention, though
unless you're looking for the extra features, the Einstein won't be any less awesome than the VH4


I'm looking for something that can have that core tone and a pretty decent to great clean tone. And it be foot switchable between those two.
 
CoryOB":1yzf543r said:
Thank all of you so much. I think what I might do is pick up a Einstein then save up for a Hagen, Herbert, or VH4. My biggest complaint about the big 3, if you want to call them that, of the Diezel family is that they don't come with a simple foot switch. I don't have midi and never want it. I just want to be able to switch channels.

I probably would be willing to go ahead and spend the extra 1000 on a used Herbert or VH4 if I didn't have to buy a massive midi foot switch.

Check out the midi mouse and midi moose. They're both pretty cheap and simple.
 
CoryOB":ge8r1i5d said:
Thank all of you so much. I think what I might do is pick up a Einstein then save up for a Hagen, Herbert, or VH4. My biggest complaint about the big 3, if you want to call them that, of the Diezel family is that they don't come with a simple foot switch. I don't have midi and never want it. I just want to be able to switch channels.

I probably would be willing to go ahead and spend the extra 1000 on a used Herbert or VH4 if I didn't have to buy a massive midi foot switch.

Check out the midi mouse and midi moose. They're both pretty cheap and simple.
 
CoryOB":24f3u8yv said:
ericsabbath":24f3u8yv said:
I definitely liked the Einstein's ch1 mode 3 better than the VH4S ch3
same core tone, but more open and organic
didn't pay the other channels much attention, though
unless you're looking for the extra features, the Einstein won't be any less awesome than the VH4

I'm looking for something that can have that core tone and a pretty decent to great clean tone. And it be foot switchable between those two.

I've owned an Einstein, then a VH4 and recently a Hagen. Einstein can do pretty well what you need, but IMHO the VH4 and Hagen are one step ahead (and the last one has blown me away... every sound I get from it is just amazing). Maybe you don't need right now the versatility these amps can give you, but think that in the near future it could be something that you would need/want.

And as slyvren says, there are pretty easy midi foot switches out there!
 
slyvren":2ay00ykp said:
CoryOB":2ay00ykp said:
Thank all of you so much. I think what I might do is pick up a Einstein then save up for a Hagen, Herbert, or VH4. My biggest complaint about the big 3, if you want to call them that, of the Diezel family is that they don't come with a simple foot switch. I don't have midi and never want it. I just want to be able to switch channels.

I probably would be willing to go ahead and spend the extra 1000 on a used Herbert or VH4 if I didn't have to buy a massive midi foot switch.

Check out the midi mouse and midi moose. They're both pretty cheap and simple.


Lets see if i'm over thinking the midi thing. The Midi mouse is the perfect size. It has three buttons up, down, and active/search. Say if I wanted to switch from channel 1 (clean) to 3 (main distortion) on a vh4 would I have to tap dance on the pedal till I got to the right patch? or could I set the Up button to say clean, the active button to dirty and down to Super dirty
 
RaulTx":2ugobtvk said:
CoryOB":2ugobtvk said:
ericsabbath":2ugobtvk said:
I definitely liked the Einstein's ch1 mode 3 better than the VH4S ch3
same core tone, but more open and organic
didn't pay the other channels much attention, though
unless you're looking for the extra features, the Einstein won't be any less awesome than the VH4

I'm looking for something that can have that core tone and a pretty decent to great clean tone. And it be foot switchable between those two.

I've owned an Einstein, then a VH4 and recently a Hagen. Einstein can do pretty well what you need, but IMHO the VH4 and Hagen are one step ahead (and the last one has blown me away... every sound I get from it is just amazing). Maybe you don't need right now the versatility these amps can give you, but think that in the near future it could be something that you would need/want.

And as slyvren says, there are pretty easy midi foot switches out there!


I really think your right. I keep telling my self that a Einstein is all I need but something in me wants one of the big ones.
 
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