Do the production CCV's sound like this?

[SLOgriff]

 

[NS10Fan]

lol, to stir the pot, *nothing* sounds like this.

 

[SLOgriff]

I love the tones in this video, punchy and full with cut and clarity. That lower gain "jail break" tone is killer!

 

[guitup too]

These clips of Mark Cameron play his amps are the best Cameron clips I've heard. Not that I've heard all of them.

 

[jcj]

That was my amp, and it ripped, as several members here can attest. It lived somewhere on the East Coast, last I knew.

I have one now (with a few tweaks), that's the best I've ever played, so I don't miss it, but it definitely was a killer.

There are some differences in feel and tone between the old and new, but I really like the new CCV's too. I could easily live with having both.

 

[Ancient Alien]

They are not the same.......Things have changed. <------that's a period

 

[splawner]

I have a new production CCV and love the amp and i know i can get the same tones out of mine that is in the Video you posted....I also had an original CCV and would say i like the new production CCV's for my liking a bit better... I feel my CCV has a bit more gain on the mid clipping channel than my old one had which works for me....Bottom line IMO just killer amps

 

[jcj]

I have a new production CCV and love the amp and i know i can get the same tones out of mine that is in the Video you posted....I also had an original CCV and would say i like the new production CCV's for my liking a bit better... I feel my CCV has a bit more gain on the mid clipping channel than my old one had which works for me....Bottom line IMO just killer amps

It definitely has more gain on the mid clipping, and the feel is more saturated.

I guess I'd say that particular CCV, or most of the old ones I've owned or played have almost a clean channel running behind them....really hard to explain, but you'd know it if you felt it...

I like 'em both

 

[dawnofdreamx97]

I have a new production CCV and love the amp and i know i can get the same tones out of mine that is in the Video you posted....I also had an original CCV and would say i like the new production CCV's for my liking a bit better... I feel my CCV has a bit more gain on the mid clipping channel than my old one had which works for me....Bottom line IMO just killer amps

It definitely has more gain on the mid clipping, and the feel is more saturated.

I guess I'd say that particular CCV, or most of the old ones I've owned or played have almost a clean channel running behind them....really hard to explain, but you'd know it if you felt it...

I like 'em both

Mark had them use 2.7k on the cathodes on the new ones i believe, the old ones were a different value hence the new ones have more gain, the new ones use more filtering to (220uf), among some other things. Also if i took a wild guess, because the new ones have an actual fx loop , the zeners are probably in a different spot than the old ones were, which can effect how much the actual zener or other clipping device that Mark usually used clips the signal, but i could be wrong about that....

It's the way gain is added on the ccv, with the brite switch's and the zener clipping, the amp feels and sounds like it has alot more gain than it actually does, which is why it has such a killer clarity. . . .

 

[SLOgriff]

What do you mean by "among some other things ..... "

So the new CCV's can be dialed in to sound like this original one in the video?

 

[dawnofdreamx97]

What do you mean by "among some other things ..... "

So the new CCV's can be dialed in to sound like this original one in the video?

naa i heard they sound really good actually - I trust JCJ he knows his stuff.

 

[steve_k]

What do you mean by "among some other things ..... "

So the new CCV's can be dialed in to sound like this original one in the video?

They are not the same.

 

[jcj]

In all honesty, some of the guys who have owned (or currently own) old ones don't dig the new ones as much as I do....I like 'em...no bullshit, no sales pitch.

Mark isn't even involved with the company anymore, and my opinion is still the same....I like the new CCV's.

Will it sound exactly like the video? No. Close? Yes.

So much of it has to do with the way you play them...you'll either love 'em, or not....

 

[dawnofdreamx97]

What do you mean by "among some other things ..... "

So the new CCV's can be dialed in to sound like this original one in the video?

They are not the same.

yea but its got WIMA caps bro....! naaa again im sure the new ones sound cool but there are some differences. If you look at the standard JOSE mod schematic floating around he used most of those values , where as the other ccv's i've had some different values & stuff ...

 

[steve_k]

Just like some of the original Marshall's are a little different, because they were trying to buy what components they could in the UK with a war going on. Mark's inconsistency on the original CCV's was the same. Mark is a tweaker and builds from what he hears. There's probably not two of the same.

The CCV without any clipping, actually makes very minimal tube gain. Two tubes for each channel isn't going to bring about a large amount of gain. But, as Josh said, the overall tone with the clipping engaged is almost like layering the clipping on top of the cleaner, lower gain tube tone. This is what gives the CCV so much punch. And, the more you crank it, the tighter it gets.

All that said, I leaned toward Mark's modded Marshall's for the tone and feel that I wanted. Still, they are fine amps and indeed, most are different. And, there are going to be subtle differences in the production models over the originals.

Steve

 

[dawnofdreamx97]

Just like some of the original Marshall's are a little different, because they were trying to buy what components they could in the UK with a war going on. Mark's inconsistency on the original CCV's was the same. Mark is a tweaker and builds from what he hears. There's probably not two of the same.

The CCV without any clipping, actually makes very minimal tube gain. Two tubes for each channel isn't going to bring about a large amount of gain. But, as Josh said, the overall tone with the clipping engaged is almost like layering the clipping on top of the cleaner, lower gain tube tone. This is what gives the CCV so much punch. And, the more you crank it, the tighter it gets.

All that said, I leaned toward Mark's modded Marshall's for the tone and feel that I wanted. Still, they are fine amps and indeed, most are different. And, there are going to be subtle differences in the production models over the originals.

Steve

right on - im pretty sure i have the first actual Production CCV that Mark sold to a customer as an Actual ccv. the amp rips - I love his mods, the aldrich mod i have is seriously THE best cameron ive ever heard, and anyone who plays it agree's , the thing is DIS GUSTING !

 

[Tone Merchant]

now this blog is what rig talk is supposed to be about. A mature discussion from guys who have alot of knowledge and insight.

keep this going

 

[dawnofdreamx97]

now this blog is what rig talk is supposed to be about. A mature discussion from guys who have alot of knowledge and insight.

keep this going

ayy you! i got a bone to pick with you !! you never called me back - i need another set of aldrich pickups - i know you're a rockstar now but come on man!

 

[jcj]

Just like some of the original Marshall's are a little different, because they were trying to buy what components they could in the UK with a war going on. Mark's inconsistency on the original CCV's was the same. Mark is a tweaker and builds from what he hears. There's probably not two of the same.

The CCV without any clipping, actually makes very minimal tube gain. Two tubes for each channel isn't going to bring about a large amount of gain. But, as Josh said, the overall tone with the clipping engaged is almost like layering the clipping on top of the cleaner, lower gain tube tone. This is what gives the CCV so much punch. And, the more you crank it, the tighter it gets.

All that said, I leaned toward Mark's modded Marshall's for the tone and feel that I wanted. Still, they are fine amps and indeed, most are different. And, there are going to be subtle differences in the production models over the originals.

Steve

Do we have that smiling, clapping little guy on R-T?

 

[SLOgriff]

Makes sense, I think everyone's comments just about sums it up!

I put my money down on a Production CCV last May(2011). I would never, ever do this again!!!That's a lot of time to wait, watch, read, and listen. The only videos that have given me hope (that I will like this amp) is the original video above, a recent Pete Thorn video playing thru one, and about two Mark Day videos from the end of last year.

I know its YouTube coming thru computer speakers, but a lot of the videos make the mids sound thin (not cutting) and a punch is missing that I CAN hear in the above original 2008 video.